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Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:11 pm
by bigsteve5273@yahoo.c
Dear Mike A.,   Even vague general terms are more than sufficient as I certainly had no intention of being personal  only seeking affirmation that in your experience video poker does pay better than a good and hopefully lucky slot player regardless of gender.   In my case the reverse is true by a large margin.   Glad you broke even or better on your last trip.  Because of your help and positive results, one day I may take up black jack.

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:24 pm
by ginxxxx

And I'm getting a ball cap.

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:26 pm
by wilcoxfun
Mike,
My wife would say take a look at the end of the year forms that Harrahs sends out--she is way ahead of me over the years.  I have won more money--but lost more too!  I am now playing 75% video poker, 20% blackjack and the last five percent is still slots.
 
She plays 95% of the time blackjack with rest either in video poker or slots.  Her income is closer to even or a little above every year.
 
I will see a lost each year until this past year when I started to play so much more video poker.  I still lost but if you add in the cashback it was very close. 

My thought is either play video poker or blackjack and you will stay close!

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:41 pm
by MikeA
That has been my experience guys.  I've always done well with Blackjack as long as I have been able to find tables with minimums that I am comfortable with and decent rules.  I've found the most success at Double Deck.  "Streaks" with a 6-deck shoe, even with better rules, seem to run longer.But I do not often leave a table behind very much...or ahead very much for that matter either!  Played correctly, it is an almost break even game unless you are gaining an advantage.Video Poker played correctly as we all know, is a positive expectation game if you chose the right paytables.  However VARIANCE doesn't even come close in comparison.   Even the "dull 9/6 JOB" carries 19% variance.  Blackjack is more like 7% or 8%.  Do the math!  You are going to have larger wins and larger loses with Video Poker...just no way around that.But long-term expectations are very close in comparison between the two games.Slots...well, they are not an exact science!  Long term, you ARE going to lose.  But you can get on lucky streaks where you gain windfalls!  That plus the lack of a need for skill is I think what must draw people to the slot machines.

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:45 pm
by EDC1977
Regardless of age, gender or nationality! Slots don't discriminate, only want more money. There will always be someone who's had this phenomenal year of luck playing slots but put side-by-side to a VP player and shown charts for bankroll, hours played/sessions, and denomination. I would have to venture the VP player is going to show up in the plus column.(positive return games played near perfect). If you sat at a $1 10/7 DDB machine and the average OEJ sat next to you at a $1 megabucks slot and hits for beau coup millions, how could you possibly justify something like that other than luck! If both sat for a 4 hr session, the VP player would walk even or ahead a majority of the time.
               BTW: MikeA, hope you're not in one of them watch boxes I see on the weather screen!

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:52 am
by oej719
I caught that ED.
What do you mean average OEJ? No such thing. We are all well below average. Just ask him

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:26 am
by MikeA


               BTW: MikeA, hope you're not in one of them watch boxes I see on the weather screen!    Appreciate the concern, but we in Wichita have been fortunate.  Rain and wind, but no severe storms or hail.  Most of that has been north of us in Kansas or in the southeast and east towards Missouri and Arkansas.  They've been pounded.  I guess Oklahoma has too.

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:11 am
by EDC1977
I caught that ED.
What do you mean average OEJ? No such thing. We are all well below average. Just ask him
According to ,Were  all guppies in the fish pond!

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:20 pm
by oej719
He was not in the navy for the swimming if you know what I mean. Ha ha. Hide for cover the toothless shark is after us. A shark on a scooter wow. With the price of gas his scoter is saving him gambing coins.
Just my professional take on it.
Good day.

Re: Penny Slots

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:50 pm
by MikeA
Any way and for any reason, saving on gas is a skill these days.  Man, is the price per gallon high!