Casino Table games to avoid....

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How does the lacking one of the 10 value cards in Spanish 21 affect the game compared to regular blackjack in general?

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Tremendously. I haven't played it in a few years and would need a refresher course on the BS. One of the advantages of SP21 is that an Ace/picture is always paid 3-2, and you can split and resplit Aces. As well as double and redouble
Aces occur about 7% more as they are 4/48 instead of 4/52

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Here is a quote from Katrina Walker, the woman who literally wrote the book on Advantage SP21

10 reasons why Spanish 21 is more beatable than Blackjack
If you play the Spanish 21 games with low house edges (and they are all over the northeast, Canada, and the Pacific northwest)
e.g. S17 Spanish 21 (6-deck house edge 0.37%) or H17 with redoubling Spanish 21 (6-deck house edge 0.42%), you make a lot more money than if you play Blackjack. Why?
1. Even in the H17 game, the Ace EOR is -0.73. It’s even higher in the S17 game. The Ace is so much more valuable than in Blackjack because naturals ALWAYS get paid 3:2, and you can split Aces to 4 hands, and draw and double down on them.
2. To top it off, this Ace of heightened value occurs more frequently than in Blackjack (1/12 instead of 1/13).
3. Indices are much more powerful than in Blackjack, where there is little scope for play variation. (e.g., for stiff hands, which are the most common, what can you do as the count goes up: vary your play between hitting 12 vs 2,3 and standing? Wow. Powerful stuff (not). In Spanish 21, the indices win rate is 2.15 times the BS win rate, on average. There is HUGE scope for play variation as the count goes up.
4. For each increment of +1 in the Hi-Lo true count, the increase in the natural proportion (i.e. the gradient) is 17% higher in Spanish 21 than Blackjack, because of the Ace-richness.
5. For each increment of +1 in the Hi-Lo true count, the SP21 advantage increases by an average of 0.65% (when using all indices). Isn’t BJ around 0.5%? And Aces are 1/4 of the money cards rather than 1/5.
6. SP21 penetration is up to 90% in some venues. On average, SP21 pen is much better than BJ pen. You would all know that win rate (90% pen) is around 6 times the win rate at 65% pen, not even including the extra shuffle time.
7. Dealers regularly give early surrender because they have no idea what they are doing.
8. I don’t use one, but a 2-level count would be even better. The KatCount, 1 2 2 2 1 0 0 0 -1 -2 (from 2 through Ace) has a correlation coefficient (between EORS) of 0.983. Significantly higher than the corr coeff for the Revere Point Count for Blackjack (which is 0.976).
9. There is hardly any heat, so you can bet optimally. You get table conditions that haven’t been seen in Blackjack for 40 years.
10. You can double down on any number of cards. As the count increases, we all know that we win more doubles. In SP21, we get even more winning doubles than in Blackjack, as the count goes up.

A quote from Anthony Curtis:
“As is often the case in gambling, cursory investigation, erroneous assumptions, and limited information can lead to missed

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Tremendously. I haven't played it in a few years and would need a refresher course on the BS. One of the advantages of SP21 is that anAce/picture is always paid 3-2, and you can split and resplit Aces.

Thanks for the insight as you were a former blackjack pro. I've never attempting to count cards since I know the casino can see it quickly and toss patrons out.

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Post by billryan »

"blackjack pro" would be a bit of a stretch. I always considered it an outstanding second job.
I'm not up on current SP21 conditions, but when I played, the casinos thought it was a carnival game and allowed spreads you'd never see in BJ.
Most of the dealers were BJ dealers who hated the game and made a lot of mistakes.

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For what it is worth. I had to be dragged to a SP21 table. I had looked at the rules and thought it was a suckers game. Then a friend got an advance copy of Katrina Walkers book on it and hilited a few sections for me to read on the bus to AC. It was eye opening, but I was still skeptical. Until I wasn't.

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alpax 15000$ on the quad plus the full house house , and lots of trps , my bank roll was 9k in less an hour colored my chips to 6 / 5k , gave the dealer 500$ tip walked to the gage left them there got a receipt went to bed next morning got a check drove back to lovely CHINO HILLS , CA .

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alpax 15000$ on the quad plus the full house house , and lots of trps , my bank roll was 9k in less an hour colored my chips to 6 / 5k , gave the dealer 500$ tip walked to the gage left them there got a receipt went to bed next morning got a check drove back to lovely CHINO HILLS , CA .

Oh ok, makes sense now. I did not catch the follow up post about the Full House. Nice run regardless so congrats to you. If you did it at a better MGM Resort than Circus Circus, I am sure you would get a very good treatment on the house.

Speaking of your hometown, one of the 3 split winners of the record $1.5 billion Powerball jackpot still has not claimed the prize even after 4 months have passed.

EDIT: Nevermind, a misfortune happened to this winner

Powerball Winner Dead From Drug Overdose, Prostitutes Steal $275K In Cash From Home

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Thank you aplax , my host tried to keep me another night with a larger suite offer but I was there for my birthday and my sister twins birthday its a kids place lol . About my home town power ball winner it's not true no one yet came forward yet but people here saying that he is a cop use to stop by that 7/11 daily and he is waiting to claim the prize .

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You got yourself a pretty good present for yourself that night! C.C. has been around for a long time, all those midway carnival circus games (not the table games) in the 90s were fun. I was just suggesting that the Aria might fit your bill when betting for those stakes.

Thanks for the clarification about the Powerball, man I was fooled pretty bad there. An article came out last weekend that still states the ticket has not been claimed.

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