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Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:27 am
by olds442jetaway
Nothing works long term. Unless you can get EV over 100 percent with cash comps like free play. Even then, you have to play perfectly.

Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:18 pm
by FAA
In other news, the DJIA was -7 today. But the SP was +7!

Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:15 pm
by olds442jetaway
Maybe get a 7 now on that first roll. My record when I used to play craps before retirement was 7 consecutive 7s. Unfortunately, that roll didn’t last long. Only 2 more rolls. A 6 then 7 out. I also used a Martingale clone method when playing craps. It worked very well, but stupidly, I didn’t set a stop loss limit so most sessions when the dice ran all the way around the table in ten minutes, I lost. Haven’t played in about 20 years now.

Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:09 pm
by Tedlark
FAA wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:18 pm
In other news, the DJIA was -7 today. But the SP was +7!
Please for the sake of the originating poster how about we stay on topic.

Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:14 pm
by Waiting4RF
Olds, I wanted to be sure I understand the JOB clone. If your bet is 8 and you just lost your 4th hand in the count, your bet goes up to 9. Then you lost 3 hands in a row at bet 9 so your count is 3. The 4th hand you get two pair. Is the next bet at 8 with the count at zero, or is the next bet be at 9 with a count of 2?

Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:44 pm
by dinghy
Olds, the domain is available!

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Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:39 pm
by olds442jetaway
I have played it both ways. I prefer to stay at 9 with a count of 2, but in absolutely horrible sequence, I have busted playing that way.
If I go back to 8, my prior sequence at bet 9 was a loser, but sometines, in a real Marathon session, I wont bust out and if I catch some quads close together, can still do quite well.
I will give one more example playing the more aggressive way, but also the more risky way. Let’s say I am at bet 11 and lose 3 in a row. On the 4 th bet at 11, I get a full house. I call my gains spaces. Since the full house pays 9 for 1, I have gained 8 spaces. That would knock out space 1,2,and 3 at bet 11. It would also knock out space 1,2,3,4 at bet 10. It would also knock out space 4 at bet 9. So my next bet would be my 4 th bet or space at bet 9. I know this sounds confusing. It keeps me sharp doing all of this in my head. Inportant to remember, long term, nothing works without a positive EV

Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:43 am
by olds442jetaway
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Very lucky tonight playing Martingale Clone on Deuces wild. On this game, I wait for 6 misses before increasing my bet. I was out a couple of hundred and the bets were getting high fast, so I am glad the quad Deuces appeared. Time for some rest now. Didn’t even get here and start playing until midnight. The second vaccine shot yesterday knocked me for a bit of a loop by this morning.

Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:32 am
by olds442jetaway
Had a nice rest shower etc. and started all over. Just very lucky and hit the deuces again.
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Re: Martiandale Clone

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:33 am
by Waiting4RF
Thanks. Nice hit on the unexpected quad deuces!