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Casinos get a slap on the wrist and a small fine when they get caught cheating.

You're welcome @Tedlark! At the end of the day, it all comes down to math and statistics, and casinos always have an advantage over the players!

phnxnmartini wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:44 pm

RNG regulations vary from state to state, but I did find this article from the Nevada gaming commission that outlines the requirements of the RNG: https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocum ... entid=3450. Here is also another link (straight from this site & software developer of most VP machines) that outlines the RNG. https://www.videopoker.com/learn/superstitions/#rng. The local gaming commission regulates the integrity of the RNG. Even if the casinos could manipulate RNGs, it would not be worth losing their gaming license.

Thank you for the info. The first link has a good piece of info. Referring to the RNG : "sufficiently encrypt or otherwise protect the information from being accessible to anyone"
Will consider that quite heavily in my search.
Only fools believe that cheating does not happen and regulation is not required. My home casino was caught and received a "slap on the wrist" TWICE !

tech58 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:39 pm

phnxnmartini wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:44 pm

RNG regulations vary from state to state, but I did find this article from the Nevada gaming commission that outlines the requirements of the RNG: https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocum ... entid=3450. Here is also another link (straight from this site & software developer of most VP machines) that outlines the RNG. https://www.videopoker.com/learn/superstitions/#rng. The local gaming commission regulates the integrity of the RNG. Even if the casinos could manipulate RNGs, it would not be worth losing their gaming license.

Only fools believe that cheating does not happen and regulation is not required. My home casino was caught and received a "slap on the wrist" TWICE !

And only bigger fools would still gamble at a casino that may have been caught cheating......

tech58 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:39 pm

Only fools believe that cheating does not happen and regulation is not required.

I'm a fool who would want to know the cost of the regulation, and the measurable efficacy.

Non-contributor duly reported.

Pressing on.

Another RNG article:

https://www.888casino.com/blog/random-number-generator

phnxnmartini wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:44 pm

RNG regulations vary from state to state...The local gaming commission regulates the integrity of the RNG. Even if the casinos could manipulate RNGs, it would not be worth losing their gaming license.

Which is why you should defiantly not play Native casino VP machines. It would be near impossible for them to lose their gaming license, at least here where I live.

Here in WI "The Office of Indian Gaming and Regulatory Compliance"(OIGRC) board regulates Native casinos. It does financial/compliance audits of Native Casinos. But has no power to fine them. Not sure what the point is. In the end the Native casinos here are more or less self-regulated. And making an absolute killing.

I requested copy of the OIGRC's most recent compliance audits of my local casino. I was told that as part of the "compact" with Wisconsin, that information is "confidential." I could, though, get a "heavily redacted" copy. I declined. I knew it would just by 99% redacted.

Per one of the local Native Casino's compact here, any electronic game of chance that is "affected by player skill such as electronic draw poker..." must be set to pay between 83-100% back to the player. That is worlds apart from being the same as having a deck of 52 being continuously shuffled and dealt to the player.

Player beware.

Kasfeldt7 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:44 am

Which is why you should defiantly not play Native casino VP machines.

You'll fit right in here.

Kasfeldt7 - In your very first post in these forums you stated that you were "jumping back into VP after taking a break for several years." You went on to say that you "hit a royal flush and promptly quit playing VP."

Your post here in this thread does a pretty good job of slamming Native American owned casinos across the board and you end the post by stating "Player beware."

So, did you continue to gamble at your local Native American owned casino? If yes, what games of chance did you play? If you hit a royal and then promptly quit after hitting it, why did you stop playing VP?

As I, and others, have stated ad nauseam here: If a player feels that something is amiss, don't play.