Going for Royal flush's only

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adapterz
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Going for Royal flush's only

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I was curious to see what is the royal flush cycle for jacks and better if the only pay table win was a royal flush? That is you only won on the royal flush and nothing else (no point in holding anything other than 10, J, K, Q, A suited. I am asking because sometimes people hold less expected value cards for a higher chance of the big hit, and if you go to the extreme with a royal flush only pays paytable, how much more often will it show up?

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Post by adapterz »

Nevermind, I found a custom video poker calculator on the wizard of odds site, 23,080.75 cycle Variance 27.73 Payback 0.034661. What a surprising cycle, but even more is that 3% payback!

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adapterz wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:18 pm
Nevermind, I found a custom video poker calculator on the wizard of odds site, 23,080.75 cycle Variance 27.73 Payback 0.034661. What a surprising cycle, but even more is that 3% payback!
Why that’s a surprise? Frequent hand payouts are deterministic for long term return.

I wish 9/6 JoB pay 0 for royal but 15 for two pair.

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adapterz wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:18 pm
Nevermind, I found a custom video poker calculator on the wizard of odds site, 23,080.75 cycle Variance 27.73 Payback 0.034661. What a surprising cycle, but even more is that 3% payback!
That just doesn't seem right to me. On average, playing 25c denomination, every 23000 hands or so, you connect on one $1000 royal. But those 23000 hands cost you almost $29,000.

You will, inevitably, hit some lower paying hands as well, but hardly enough of them to cover that $28,000 shortfall.

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Simply filling 0s for non royal hands in the calculator doesn’t give u the correct number.

Basically for each dealt hand, get the return of holding only royal cards, then sum them up.

There may be cases like 2 or more suited royal cards exist in each hand, pick the one suit returns most.

I may calculate it today if I feel happy tonight.

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I wish 9/6 JoB pay 0 for royal but 15 for two pair.
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hophoofer wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:11 pm
Simply filling 0s for non royal hands in the calculator doesn’t give u the correct number.

Basically for each dealt hand, get the return of holding only royal cards, then sum them up.

There may be cases like 2 or more suited royal cards exist in each hand, pick the one suit returns most.

I may calculate it today if I feel happy tonight.
Bolded part.

It wouldn't make a difference if the royal paid 4000 credits and everything else was a loser. AT suited would be equivalent to QJ suited.

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Jstark wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:56 pm
Pay back and strategy here:

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-po ... d-0-d-800/
This is not the correct return for holding only royals cards. Because you can be paid for jacks or better etc.

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hophoofer wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:59 pm
Jstark wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:56 pm
Pay back and strategy here:

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-po ... d-0-d-800/
This is not the correct return for holding only royals cards. Because you can be paid for jacks or better etc.
The OP stated a win on a royal flush only and everything else was a loser. But if we add a high pair to it, here us the result:

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-po ... d-0-d-800/

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