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Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:08 pm
by adapterz
I was curious to see what is the royal flush cycle for jacks and better if the only pay table win was a royal flush? That is you only won on the royal flush and nothing else (no point in holding anything other than 10, J, K, Q, A suited. I am asking because sometimes people hold less expected value cards for a higher chance of the big hit, and if you go to the extreme with a royal flush only pays paytable, how much more often will it show up?
Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:18 pm
by adapterz
Nevermind, I found a custom video poker calculator on the wizard of odds site, 23,080.75 cycle Variance 27.73 Payback 0.034661. What a surprising cycle, but even more is that 3% payback!
Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:34 pm
by Player422738
adapterz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:18 pm
Nevermind, I found a custom video poker calculator on the wizard of odds site, 23,080.75 cycle Variance 27.73 Payback 0.034661. What a surprising cycle, but even more is that 3% payback!
Why that’s a surprise? Frequent hand payouts are deterministic for long term return.
I wish 9/6 JoB pay 0 for royal but 15 for two pair.
Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:51 am
by onemoretry
adapterz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:18 pm
Nevermind, I found a custom video poker calculator on the wizard of odds site, 23,080.75 cycle Variance 27.73 Payback 0.034661. What a surprising cycle, but even more is that 3% payback!
That just doesn't seem right to me. On average, playing 25c denomination, every 23000 hands or so, you connect on one $1000 royal. But those 23000 hands cost you almost $29,000.
You will, inevitably, hit some lower paying hands as well, but hardly enough of them to cover that $28,000 shortfall.
Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:11 pm
by Player422738
Simply filling 0s for non royal hands in the calculator doesn’t give u the correct number.
Basically for each dealt hand, get the return of holding only royal cards, then sum them up.
There may be cases like 2 or more suited royal cards exist in each hand, pick the one suit returns most.
I may calculate it today if I feel happy tonight.
Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:50 pm
by FAA
I wish 9/6 JoB pay 0 for royal but 15 for two pair.
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Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:56 pm
by Jstark
Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:00 pm
by Jstark
hophoofer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:11 pm
Simply filling 0s for non royal hands in the calculator doesn’t give u the correct number.
Basically for each dealt hand, get the return of holding only royal cards, then sum them up.
There may be cases like 2 or more suited royal cards exist in each hand, pick the one suit returns most.
I may calculate it today if I feel happy tonight.
Bolded part.
It wouldn't make a difference if the royal paid 4000 credits and everything else was a loser. AT suited would be equivalent to QJ suited.
Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:59 pm
by Player422738
This is not the correct return for holding only royals cards. Because you can be paid for jacks or better etc.
Re: Going for Royal flush's only
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:53 pm
by Jstark
hophoofer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:59 pm
This is not the correct return for holding only royals cards. Because you can be paid for jacks or better etc.
The OP stated a win on a royal flush only and everything else was a loser. But if we add a high pair to it, here us the result:
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-po ... d-0-d-800/