Finding a mistake

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DougJ
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Re: Finding a mistake

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Vman96 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:32 am
. . .

I've seen 10/7 Jacks before in Tunica. But two pair was only 1 for 1, it's the worst VP game I've ever seen in a casino.

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I play JOB and Bonus poker enough to know that I'm not touching a game that only pays 1 for 1 on two pair. NEVER.

Interesting to me was I had dinner last week at Venetian, and strolled the casino floor afterwards.
I had no idea that there is a Bonus Poker game that only pays on any four of a kind, rather than a breakdown for 4 aces, or with four 2-4's. Garbage.

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35/8/5/3/2/1 is the better version. As Bob pointed out once, it's really just JoB with a higher quad pay off. There is also a short version where quads pay 30. We have that one here. Picture of it later tonight.

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DougJ wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:31 pm
I had no idea that there is a Bonus Poker game that only pays on any four of a kind, rather than a breakdown for 4 aces, or with four 2-4's. Garbage.
I've encountered that one a few times, as well. I call it "Bogus Bonus" poker.

Actually, as is pointed out by Jstark, above, it's not a bad game if it's one with the 175 quad payout, it's simply 8/5 JOB with an enhanced quad payoff, and has a return of 99.66%. Probably, though, you encountered the inferior version with a 150 quad payout (98.48%).

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onemoretry wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:40 am
DougJ wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:31 pm
I had no idea that there is a Bonus Poker game that only pays on any four of a kind, rather than a breakdown for 4 aces, or with four 2-4's. Garbage.
I've encountered that one a few times, as well. I call it "Bogus Bonus" poker.

Actually, as is pointed out by Jstark, above, it's not a bad game if it's one with the 175 quad payout, it's simply 8/5 JOB with an enhanced quad payoff, and has a return of 99.66%. Probably, though, you encountered the inferior version with a 150 quad payout (98.48%).
I'm fairly certain the one here is the 30/6/5 version which is 96.1772%
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Jstark wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:12 am
onemoretry wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:40 am
Probably, though, you encountered the inferior version with a 150 quad payout (98.48%).
I'm fairly certain the one here is the 30/6/5 version which is 96.1772%
I was going to say, I'm not sure Venetian offers any 98.48% vp except in high-limit.

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I'm in the Detroit area.

And considering Venetian offers mostly 6:5 blackjack, I wouldn't doubt you.

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Jstark wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:40 am
And considering Venetian offers mostly 6:5 blackjack, I wouldn't doubt you.
Sorry, I was referring back to the sighting Doug mentioned.

I think it may have been Venetian that pioneered triple zero roulette.

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onemoretry wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:40 am
. . . Probably, though, you encountered the inferior version with a 150 quad payout (98.48%).
NOPE. The bonus poker games at Venetian paid 125 credits for any quad (again, with no larger payout for 4 aces or four 2-4's). And, this was on a bank of games with denomination choice of $1, $2 or $5.
Garbage

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Post by DougJ »

Adding here that the M has lowered its paytables in their high limit room, and they have the charming Bonus Poker paytables I just described. Someone at M has lost their marbles

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Post by Jstark »

I almost forgot, but did check one machine out before leaving and it was 35/6/5 for a return of 97.3586%
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