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what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:22 pm
by keno3699
playing free game of 9/6 JOB on winpoker and got this hand. just want to know how you would play it.
HAND
Ks 10s As Ac 3c?
I'll give the answer from what the software said to do after a reply?
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:37 pm
by Eduardo
I haven't studied jacks or better much, but without cheating and looking at the correct answer, I would guess to hold 3 to the royal.
Edit: and after cheating () I can see there are a few holds that give a better average return. Shows what I know about jacks or better (I always undervalue the +5 "jacks or better" hand returns it seems)
But... there are several "good" holds that are all fairly close in return value. But the correct hold (which I will not mention until you want to give the answer) is indeed .6 higher so looks like the best play in the long run. Fortunately I would not have paid a huge price for my mistake, however.
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:47 pm
by keno3699
Yeah i thought you would hold the 3 to the royal also but was wrong. I have a cheat card that says hold for the royal also. so wouldn't hold for the royal for the chance to hit it.
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:47 pm
by marie meijer
Hold the aces!
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:48 pm
by keno3699
yes the answer was hold the aces i was holding for the royal
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:49 pm
by faygo
Pair of Aces.
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:50 pm
by Eduardo
I say hold the aces.
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:49 pm
by EDC1977
Always hold the high pair(J,Q,K,A) unless the 3 card royal is in succession IE;TJQ,JQK,QKA suited. 3 card royals with a gap have a slightly lower EV than the high pair does, at least in DDB and I would guess it isn't too much different in JOB.
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:06 pm
by oej719
I'd say trash them all and hope for a royal on the draw.
Trick the machine into thinking you don't know how to play. Reverse psycology i think it is called.
Re: what to hold
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:17 pm
by MikeA
Ed,I think it's a little different with JOB (9/6) than with DDB (10/6). JOB is a pretty simple strategy with not nearly as much to remember compared to the "bonus games".According to VPWWith JOB 9/6The ER for any High Pair (J-A) is 7.68.The ER for any combination of 3RF is 6.999.So you would always hold high pair. They are back to back on the strategy charts and the difference is pretty small.In DDB 10/6 there is more to it isn't there!13 HIGH PAIR A 9.64198814 TWO PAIR 8.82978715 RF3 'KQJ' 7.39418916 HIGH PAIR K 7.28122117 RF3 'QJT' 7.37021218 HIGH PAIR J-Q 7.28122119 RF3 'AHH'; 'KHT' 6.93072320 FL4 2h; 1h; 0h 6.09561521 RF3 'AHT' 6.525929