RNG Redux

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Kasfeldt7
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Re: RNG Redux

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Tedlark wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:12 pm
I will add this before I excuse myself from making any more posts in this thread:

There is a world of difference between a personal attack and a snarky response.

Again, best of luck to you where ever you choose to pace a wager.
I didn't attack you personally. As little as you attacked my person.

Best of luck to you as well. If you find yourself in Milwaukee, I'll give you the nickel tour.

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Post by dinghy »

Kasfeldt7 wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:42 pm
I'll stand of the advice of guys like Bob Dancer and Dan Paymar that have offered the same advice of native casinos, "Player Beware." I'll give you the references should you desire them.
We've been beckoning Bob to post in the thread, so yes please let us know what he thinks.

I'm doubtful that Dan will post.

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Post by Gronbog »

OTABILL wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:49 pm
Gronbog wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:09 pm
Another RNG article:

https://www.888casino.com/blog/random-number-generator
Thanks, Gronbog for posting this informative article.
Thanks for trying to get the thread back on topic.

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Post by Kasfeldt7 »

dinghy wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:35 pm
Kasfeldt7 wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:42 pm
I'll stand of the advice of guys like Bob Dancer and Dan Paymar that have offered the same advice of native casinos, "Player Beware." I'll give you the references should you desire them.
We've been beckoning Bob to post in the thread, so yes please let us know what he thinks.

I'm doubtful that Dan will post.
"Referees are important...I like the idea that I can appeal a casinos action to a reasonably fair referee...There are still states where's there's virtually no regulation. And every Native tribe sets its own rules. If you think a machine is unfair, youre welcome to complain to the tribal council. And good luck." (Million Dollar Video Poker;Bob Dancer; pg. 17. 2003 ed.)

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Post by Kasfeldt7 »

dinghy wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:35 pm
Kasfeldt7 wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:42 pm
I'll stand of the advice of guys like Bob Dancer and Dan Paymar that have offered the same advice of native casinos, "Player Beware." I'll give you the references should you desire them.
We've been beckoning Bob to post in the thread, so yes please let us know what he thinks.

I'm doubtful that Dan will post.
Yeah if Dan did it would be long distance. Try reading his book instead.

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Post by OTABILL »

Gronbog wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:29 pm
OTABILL wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:49 pm
Gronbog wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:09 pm
Another RNG article:

https://www.888casino.com/blog/random-number-generator
Thanks, Gronbog for posting this informative article.
Thanks for trying to get the thread back on topic.
Hopefully we will. :)

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Post by Kasfeldt7 »

RNG for VP...
https://www.casinonewsdaily.com/video-p ... generator/

"Beginners should also note that there are video poker machines, known as video lottery terminals (VLTs), which select winning hands ahead of time, thus, THEY MAKE ANY PLAYING STRATEGY WORTHLESS."(emphasis mine).

VLTs and US states that have them...
https://slotsguy.com/vlts-vs-slots/

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Post by tech58 »

Wow! While I have been busy for a week car-selling/car/buying for a week this thread got whacked around a bit. :ouch:

If anyone reads the #1 post they will see that my original intent was simply a search for knowledge about the INTEGRITY of the RNG in a VP machine. Stated as a question: Can the RNG be altered or otherwise corrupted by the machine owner?
The pay-back % of a VP machine is indicated by the pay-table and I don't see it as an issue.

Re-stating again, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE OR SUSPICIONS OF ANY WRONGDOING BY ANY CASINO RELATED TO VP MACHINES!! My mention of two violations that i was aware of were for pulling Aces in 21 shoes.

Thru 5 pages there is not a lot that speaks to my original question (BTW my thanks to Gronbog and OTB :up: For their attempt to re-focus) except one glimmering gem of info, thanks to phnxnmartini in his post on Mar 7 at 4:44 PM. His first link contains a statement to the effect that the RNG must be secured or encrypted so as to be available to no-one (probably not an exact quote, please read it for yourself). This seems to clearly indicate that the RNG is secure from alteration or corruption by a machine owner.
Any further info., if focused please, would be appreciated.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

I can’t explain it of course, but in playing the same machines ( 99 percent or better ) for millions of hands, there are some that I have never had a winning session on. I think this ties in with some of Wildman’s comments recently. Stubbornly, I still play them from time to time saying to myself, it has to be just coincidence.

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Post by FAA »

The article is interesting. Parallel dealing, serial dealing, 5 + 5 dealing.

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