..... but I’m convinced…without any hard evidence..
Hmm - hardly a "convincing" argument.
OMT, to be sure, your point is totally accurate. Nobody has any "hard evidence". No smoking gun, no failed inspections, no padlocked machines with handcuffed perps.
What we have here is a group of concurring anecdotal evidence. Call it feelings or theorizing or whatever anyone thinks, uncertainty maybe as is the case for me.
My dog in the fight simply wants one simple question answered (stated again for the next in a multitude of times). Is the RNG alterable by the machine owner!
One thing I will never get used to is over 600,000 hands twice ( mostly single line ) on various draw poker games without a Royal at Mohegan Sun. I can’t even imagine the probability of that happening.
If we assume 40k for a royal cycle, that would be 15 cycles or 2¹⁵, or 1 in 32768 imo. Not quite impossible, but very unlikely. I already conceded Mohegan is rigged.
The odds of not catching any royals under this assumption is 1 in about 3,269,630. That's conservative since not all of olds44jetaway's play during those 600,000 hands was single line, just most of it.
Based on my most recent two days playing super double double bonus in the monthly contest, it seems so. A thousand hands without a quad, and even worse, 500 hands today with nothing better than a flush!
One thing I will never get used to is over 600,000 hands twice ( mostly single line ) on various draw poker games without a Royal at Mohegan Sun. I can’t even imagine the probability of that happening.
If we assume 40k for a royal cycle, that would be 15 cycles or 2¹⁵, or 1 in 32768 imo. Not quite impossible, but very unlikely. I already conceded Mohegan is rigged.
The odds of not catching any royals under this assumption is 1 in about 3,269,630. That's conservative since not all of olds44jetaway's play during those 600,000 hands was single line, just most of it.
I think dingy has the numbers right, Asteroid, I think u have 2 extra zeros at the end. I may be wrong. All math nerds please chime in !!
Based on my most recent two days playing super double double bonus in the monthly contest, it seems so. A thousand hands without a quad, and even worse, 500 hands today with nothing better than a flush!
I too have noticed some weird results playing the monthly contest on this site as well. For example, discarding the other pair when dealt aces up in super double double bonus, I would have gotten a full house. Not so keeping most two pair hands. Likewise, holding 3 cards to a straight flush, the fourth will show up on the draw. I do not think these hands are the results of some nefarious actions by VP.com. I might also remind everyone, that during multiple trips to Vegas and Laughlin, playing at a number of casinos, over more than a decade, neither my late wife nor I hit a single line rf. I attribute these results to randomness, and bad luck, not cheating. BTW, during that over a decade time frame, my late wife and I had much better luck at local Native American casinos.
I too have noticed some weird results playing the monthly contest on this site as well. For example, discarding the other pair when dealt aces up in super double double bonus, I would have gotten a full house. Not so keeping most two pair hands. Likewise, holding 3 cards to a straight flush, the fourth will show up on the draw.
I never play the contests, so apparently I've accumulated 75 sessions this month. I would be willing to burn through them for data collection if someone had a reasonably testable hypothesis, but you're finding patterns in obscure places.
Frequency of dealt 2-pair is a little under 5%, so aces up would have to be under 1%. That means it happens less than once per 100-hand session. If I play my entire allotment, I'll only collect 60 or 70 observations of aces up, with just a handful of those expected to produce a would-have-been full house. Therefore the collected results are likely to be inconclusive unless the game is mega fudge-fudged.
As for 3 to an SF, I believe that's also a statistically rare occurrence on the deal.
Interesting thread. I find it quite painful to lose $100/hour on dollar BP. My last trip -$200 before a bailout quad. But as Dinghy said, once you throw out the RF/SF long shots, the 99.1% boils down to 96.6%! That’s the sanguine view players have to process.
I too have noticed some weird results playing the monthly contest on this site as well. For example, discarding the other pair when dealt aces up in super double double bonus, I would have gotten a full house. Not so keeping most two pair hands. Likewise, holding 3 cards to a straight flush, the fourth will show up on the draw.
I never play the contests, so apparently I've accumulated 75 sessions this month. I would be willing to burn through them for data collection if someone had a reasonably testable hypothesis, but you're finding patterns in obscure places.
Frequency of dealt 2-pair is a little under 5%, so aces up would have to be under 1%. That means it happens less than once per 100-hand session. If I play my entire allotment, I'll only collect 60 or 70 observations of aces up, with just a handful of those expected to produce a would-have-been full house. Therefore the collected results are likely to be inconclusive unless the game is mega fudge-fudged.
As for 3 to an SF, I believe that's also a statistically rare occurrence on the deal.
My point is oddities happen without any reason to suspect shenanigans.
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