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Which would you play?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:02 pm
by spxChrome
This one casino I don't visit often but from time to time they have good comps that will get me there.  But I run into this situation so which would you play?
 
$1 x 5 credits at 9/5
 
or
 
$5 x 1 credit at 9/6
 
Knowing that you get an extra credit for every Flush hit but you end up with $1250 instead of $4000 for the RF?
 
And this is a weekend trip so not just a couple of hours but about 15-20 hours of play.  I know its hard to give up the RF bonus but that extra 1 credit for every Flush addes up.
 
 

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:27 pm
by onemoretry
Assuming you are referring to jacks or better, the return for 9/5 JOB is 98.45%, while that for 9/6 JOB with a 1250 royal is 98.37%.
 
Does that help?

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:36 pm
by shadowman


Once again, assuming JOB, the variance of the 9/6 game would be much less since less money is tied up in the RF. You must hit the RF on the 9/5 game to get the slightly better return. So, if other factors made these options playable, I would go with the 9/6 JOB.

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:39 pm
by Eduardo
I wouldn't play any game at one credit personally (unless it was my last credit). That takes away the one thing I really hope for.


 
I can see how it would work for some people but does not suit how i like to play.

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:27 pm
by backsider


I think in the same terms as Eduardo. Playing one credit makes me believe I'm only playing to lose one credit at a time and don't expect to win.

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:22 pm
by brmcc74
I wouldn't play any game at one credit personally (unless it was my last credit). That takes away the one thing I really hope for.


 
I can see how it would work for some people but does not suit how i like to play. 100% correct,,,,,,,,,,,,,This should be the golden rule to vp if there were just one rule     IMO

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:28 pm
by shadowman

100% correct,,,,,,,,,,,,,This should be the golden rule to vp if there were just one rule     IMO
 Fortunately, there isn't a golden rule and, all to often, people who make the claim that betting max is the only way to go, are ignoring the math. Even Bob Dancer wrote an article where he demonstrated that betting max isn't always the best approach. This situation here really is a close one but there are other situations where betting less than max is far superior. In fact, this is true more often than not in negative play situations. For example let's say there were no benefits with the 9/5 JOB game. The return of 5 coins is about 98.4% and the return of one coin would be about 97.2%. If one played 800 hands/hour of dollar play his average hourly loss for the max bet would be $5*800*1.6%. That is $64/hour. The one coin bet loss would be $1*800*2.8%. That is $22.40/hour. The numbers don't lie.

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:38 pm
by backsider


Then why not just say the right play is not to bother playing? Who wants to lose no matter how many coins they play per hand, and why would anyone not include that in their teachings?

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:16 am
by brmcc74
Like I said,,,,,,,,,IMO. I wouldnt be able to live with the results of a 1 credit royal. So for me why play. I dont care how the math lines up on that situation, a royal flush with the extra credits paid is the GOAL in this game, to most people

Re: Which would you play?

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:23 pm
by shadowman



Then why not just say the right play is not to bother playing? Who wants to lose no matter how many coins they play per hand, and why would anyone not include that in their teachings?
 Some people might find that within their entertainment budget. There could be other benefits or comps that make it worthwhile. I'm just pointing out the math.