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Deep down inside I am cognizant that my last 7 months of horrible putrid awful results in AC playing their atrocious Paytable Video Poker is, when all is said and done, probably just a case of bad luck.    But what I find interesting, what I find TRULY Hillarious actually, is how easy it is to totally make certain people here go absolutely bat turd crazy simply making a strong convincing eloquent argument that VP might be something less that straightforward in the fairness department. its unreal how upset some people get, how desperate that they want to prove me wrong and the terms and names they will use to deter me. Whats even more unreal is almost none of these "players" who want me to be wrong even play in AC themselves..... Well, I'm sure I have just had a sh*tty run of bad luck, outrageously sh*tty, and I am due for a monster run of good luck anytime now.   So if any of you see me in AC (or elsewhere) do me a big favor and walk up and introduce yourselves and we'll have a drink or lunch or something.  Dont be a chickenSh*t, say HI!    even Tedlark

  I feel so honored.

Well Daburglar, I do understand what you are saying in that it might be all bad luck, but also there might be something else going (2%)on to, but you are willing to let it be as being (98%)bad luck, these percentages are only my opinion and not Daburglars. If at some time you do find something going on with Video poker in AC, Daburglar I will listen! Okay? Sam

Deep down inside I am cognizant that my last 7 months of horrible putrid awful results in AC playing their atrocious Paytable Video Poker is, when all is said and done, probably just a case of bad luck.  
 
But what I find interesting, what I find TRULY Hillarious actually, is how easy it is to totally make certain people here go absolutely bat turd crazy simply making a strong convincing eloquent argument that VP might be something less that straightforward in the fairness department.
 
its unreal how upset some people get, how desperate that they want to prove me wrong and the terms and names they will use to deter me.
 
Whats even more unreal is almost none of these "players" who want me to be wrong even play in AC themselves.....
 
Well, I'm sure I have just had a sh*tty run of bad luck, outrageously sh*tty, and I am due for a monster run of good luck anytime now.   So if any of you see me in AC (or elsewhere) do me a big favor and walk up and introduce yourselves and we'll have a drink or lunch or something.  Dont be a chickenSh*t, say HI!    even Tedlark

"Well, I'm sure I have just had a sh*tty run of bad luck, outrageously sh*tty, and I am due for a monster run of good luck anytime now."
 
Been there, done that. There was a time that I had complete faith in the game but that was destroyed a while back. I started playing at a different casino years back because it was closer to my location, the casino said it was Class III, the state gaming commission said it was Class III, completely random, I don't believe it for one second. I went 3 years waiting for my luck to change playing $2 denomination DDB (always at max) with a 98.98% payback percentage. Along with my personal record keeping I always used my players card so my playing history was easy to track. All 3 of the years were almost Identical, horrible and completely consistent results. I gave up on my luck changing at that casino and began to concentrate on how and why my results were so bad. I played the 3rd year there out of spite and on a mission because by then I knew why I was doing so bad and I tracked and documented the events as they occurred. I thought I had them dead to right, armed with all records I first confronted the casino gaming director who feigned concern at first but quickly realized I wasn't going to shake that easy. He promised to run some test and get back with me which he did, I was told all the machines were operating within the legal curve, which was no less than 82%. Once again I showed him the reason as to why I had done so bad and ask him to explain how that could happen on Class III vp, sorry for your bad luck was all I got from the man. I got pretty much the same answer from the casino manager who kind of surprised me because he would only use the word "comparable" not "the same"  to describe their brand of vp as to that of Vegas or Tunica. I quit pushing the issue when I recieved a somewhat thuggish threat from someone I least expected it from. It could be a coincidence but the audit did happen a few weeks later. One thing I learned was there's nothing you can really do about it other than count your losses and walk away.

I'm still waiting for a "strong convincing eloquent argument."

DaBurglar, I think you should just stay home with your pugs more, think of the money you'd save and you'd have better company! Kati and Bernie the pug

I'm still waiting for a "strong convincing eloquent argument."


 You'd have to learn to read first, and get help for your obvious gambling addiction, before you could possibly understand what I have been saying for the last 6 months.      

DaBurglar, I think you should just stay home with your pugs more, think of the money you'd save and you'd have better company! Kati and Bernie the pug
 Yes excellent advice... i just purchased an electronic fence for the perimeter of my property, and now Molly and Gustavus can run and chase each other and the birds all over my entire yard!  I just need Gus to stop chewing on molly's collar device.......   Hey Ko king.....the problem is this:  I have stated (and re-stated) all the other peripheral and germane issues BESIDES friggin gaming regulations and the faith everyone just plops into them that every casino follows them without fail and deviation.   No one is really interested. It is called COGNITIVE DISSONANCE....when something, or some issue, no matter how realistic or plausible, threatens the world view or position that a group of people have invested themselves into, they choose to discredit and ignore it, until it bites them in the arse (or worse.)   When people make up their mind about something (and thus have peace of mind) anyone who disrupts that is made out to be a villain, or a kook, or a conspiracy nut or whatever..... Atlantic city is NOT Vegas, as i have exhaustively pointed out and discussed......look at the situation they have been in the past 5 years plus, and clearly an open mind is called for when evaluating this topic.   I have played extensively in both markets, not many others can make that claim (not even Brb Dancer)

[QUOTE=Quad Deuces]I'm still waiting for a "strong convincing eloquent argument."


 You'd have to learn to read first, and get help for your obvious gambling addiction, before you could possibly understand what I have been saying for the last 6 months.    [/QUOTE]Hmm.  That reeks of a personal attack.  It also reeks of insulting everyone on this forum who plays VP more than a little.Considering this forum is sponsored by companies whose livelihood depends on video poker, I'm surprised comments such as this are tolerated.I think you owe everyone here an apology for your childish outburst.

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[QUOTE=Quad Deuces]I'm still waiting for a "strong convincing eloquent argument."


 You'd have to learn to read first, and get help for your obvious gambling addiction, before you could possibly understand what I have been saying for the last 6 months.    [/QUOTE]Hmm.  That reeks of a personal attack.  It also reeks of insulting everyone on this forum who plays VP more than a little.Considering this forum is sponsored by companies whose livelihood depends on video poker, I'm surprised comments such as this are tolerated.I think you owe everyone here an apology for your childish outburst.[/QUOTE]
 Pffft.... Well if anyone else is truly offended by what I said TO YOU in reply to YOUR original sniping, then absolutely, I apologize (even to tedlark)....yes I apologize to everyone EXCEPT YOU Quaddeuces.....don't open the ball with potshots on people if you are not prepared for replies sonny (that's the definition of "childish")....Of course, the only way a person truly would be "insulted" by what I said concerning gambling addiction is if it were in fact true (the truth as they say, hurts.)   Playing VP "a lot" is NOT gambling addiction anyway as you seem to mistakenly believe.....it involves Money, losing far more than you can afford and being overly concerned with the state of one's so called "bankroll"..... But seriously, all you do is prove my point, I make a series of posts with the theme of questioning aspects of Video poker, and people like you respond with attacks on me (you've dogged me going back to when i first came here....)   i didnt make this personal, YOU did (and continue to do so....)     if anyone wants to bother to go back and listen and rethink this business, all I have been saying is this:   I have played VP for 20+ years, In vegas, reno, tahoe, indian reservations and lately and lastly, in AC.   I only play 25 cent limit which means I can play a crapload of hands even with my methodical play and record keeping of individual hands.   I have stated (AND RE-STATED) that I do generally accept the integrity and validity of VP games just about everywhere and all the time, with the lone exception of AC, based upon the incredibly stark and disparate results I have observed there.    I QUESTION what I have seen and observed there when compared to everything and everywhere else I have played.   That is it......and I guarantee, if you are truly as smart and sharp concerning VP as you make yourself out to be, if you had experienced what i have seen, you'd Question somethings too..... But Questioning, and arguing the counterpoint(s) of a position and belief that runs contrary to what you had accepted up to that point is NOT unreasonable or even extreme, in fact its SMART.   if I rail against anything and anyone it is this insipid position that  people take that it is NOT POSSIBLE or Conscionable that VP could be crooked or rigged or unfair, or simply DIFFERENT, than what we perceive Nevada-style VP to be and consist of....its just so naive and ridiculous, the only possible way to reconcile it with intelligent people (which you all clearly are, personal sniping notwithstanding) is that some unreasonable emotion or impulse is involved in people's thinking.