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JOB expected return

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:00 am
by player_57074
Playing 9/6 JOB (max coins), I have generally employed the below simplified strategy.  I realize this will not result in the ~ 99.54% expected return that  a perfect strategy would, but am wondering how much I am giving up playing this way.  Can anyone tell me what my expected return is?1.  Four of a kind, straight flush, royal flush2.  4 to a royal flush3.  Three of a kind, straight, flush, full house4.  4 to a straight flush5.  Two pair6.  High pair (J/Q/K/A)7.  3 to a royal flush8.  4 to a flush9.  Low pair10.  4 to an outside straight11.  2 suited high cards12.  3 to a straight flush13.  2 unsuited high cards14.  Suited 10/J, 10/Q, or 10/K15.  One high card16. Discard everything

Re: JOB expected return

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:27 pm
by BobDancer
Your strategy would be equivalent to the Dancer/Daily beginner strategy if you added an unsuited AKQJ as instruction 10.5 and a totally unsuited KQJ as instruction 12.5When we created the strategy, our intent was for it only to be a stop-gap strategy --- suitable for a player playing only a few times lifetime. It was never intended to be a "permanent" strategy. We didn't do the calculation on the return --- probably 99.2% or so. Your omissions make it worth less than that.Although this is a higher return than many video poker games, remember that casinos know the game has a thin margin for them and punish players for playing this game with fewer comps and other goodies. You'll do better playing a 98.9% game well than 9/6 JoB at such a poor level.


Re: JOB expected return

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:33 pm
by Vman96
Your strategy would be equivalent to the Dancer/Daily beginner strategy if you added an unsuited AKQJ as instruction 10.5 and a totally unsuited KQJ as instruction 12.5When we created the strategy, our intent was for it only to be a stop-gap strategy --- suitable for a player playing only a few times lifetime. It was never intended to be a "permanent" strategy. We didn't do the calculation on the return --- probably 99.2% or so. Your omissions make it worth less than that.Although this is a higher return than many video poker games, remember that casinos know the game has a thin margin for them and punish players for playing this game with fewer comps and other goodies. You'll do better playing a 98.9% game well than 9/6 JoB at such a poor level.



Actually, he copied the 9/6 JoB "simple strategy" from the Wizard of Odds verbatim. Mike Shackleford said it returned 99.46%.

Re: JOB expected return

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:18 pm
by BobDancer

Actually, he copied the 9/6 JoB "simple strategy" from the Wizard of Odds verbatim. Mike Shackleford said it returned 99.46%.If that's what Shack posted, I'll accept it. Daily and I ball-parked it without the tools that Shack has access to.

Re: JOB expected return

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:24 pm
by advantage playe
if possible why not learn 100% correct strategy and obtain as close to 99.5439% as possible?its not like all American or double bonus which require a PHD.