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Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:12 am
by R...G...
Hi All.
Trying to figure this out.
If I walk up to a 9/6 Jacks or Better machine insert my five credits and hit the deal button I will be
facing the odds on the chart below.
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k54 ... ations.jpg
Then I hold the card or cards (According to strategy for 9/6 Jacks or Better) and hit the draw button.
Now the reason for the post. The chart below does not have the hold odds for:
Three of a kind
Two pair
Jacks or better pair
None paying pair
Nothing hand
Does anyone know what the hold odds are. Is there even a way to figure what they would be.
Thanks.
The link below is the hand odds chart.
http://www.videopokerinfo.com/handodds.htm

Re: Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:10 am
by onemoretry
What do you mean by "hold odds"? Are you looking for the odds of improving a held hand to something better, i.e., converting three of a kind to a full house or quads, etc.?

Re: Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:33 am
by RRGC
Yes, I was just curious.

Re: Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:45 am
by michaelc2323
I would check out the Wizard of Odds, he's amazing and normally has that kind of stuff charted out. You can google his name and his page will pop up.

Re: Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:42 am
by onemoretry
Sorry, I was a bit slow getting back to this one. I'm not so sure that the Wizard of Odds site provides the information in the form of odds of completing a hand, but I could easily be wrong on that point. The VPW and WinPoker software doesn't provide it directly either, but the hand analysis results make it easy to calculate the odds of making the hand.

I have a really, really old book called Common Sense in Poker that has a chart that shows exactly the information being looked for here. It was written for live poker, long before video poker was invented, but the hold odds are, nevertheless, valid for video poker.

Re: Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:15 am
by Yatita
Thanks, Onemoretry...
It's no big deal, I was just wondering.
I was on the wife's computer when I checked the post.

Re: Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:13 am
by advantage playe
one more try,was that by Irwin stieg?? if yes I still have the original copy.it was my first poker book.

Re: Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:17 am
by advantage playe
next book was poker for fun and profit also by Irwin stieg.

Re: Need help with "Hold Odds"

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:16 pm
by onemoretry
advantage playe wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:13 am
one more try,was that by Irwin stieg?? if yes I still have the original copy.it was my first poker book.
Yes, that's the one. The book itself is quite ancient, with a copyright date of 1963, but the math hasn't changed. Other than to say it was a long, long time ago, I don't know exactly when I bought it. As to why I bought it - I guess I thought reading it would improve my results in my "Thursday nights with the boys" games.