This week in white nationalism.

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no more racist than than the title of the thread you started.

equality works in many ways.

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russia...russia...russia...didn't work

collusion...collusion....collusion...that failed

racist...racist....racist...lost all meaning

being a dem means learning a one word vocabulary. what's next?

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Hotrible crimes are committed by all colors of the rainbow. That said, if one lives in or near a big city, no matter how you try to ignore it, one color seens to dominate the news over and over again. Maybe if rap sheets as long as a roll of toilet paper didn’t exist and meaningful incarcerations existed equally accross the board, our news stories would Be about other events than serious crimes. If that means building many more prisons and staffing them, so be it. If a third of the US population wnds up in prison, so be it. Eventually, people would learn to fear the consequences instead of just taking it as a brief bump in the road if that in their crime sprees.

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President Donald Trump has repeatedly refused to accept any responsibility for inciting violence in American communities, dismissing critics who have pointed to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration for some citizens acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.
"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last week, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.
But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 36 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault.
In nine cases, perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically attacking innocent victims. In another 10 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.
(MORE: 7 key questions about the threat of domestic terrorism in America)
Seven cases involved violent or threatening acts perpetrated in defiance of Trump, with many of them targeting Trump's allies in Congress. But the vast majority of the cases -- 29 of the 36 -- reflect someone echoing presidential rhetoric, not protesting it.
ABC News could not find a single criminal case filed in federal or state court where an act of violence or threat was made in the name of President Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.
The 36 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt.
In many cases of assault or threat, charges are never filed, perpetrators are never identified or the incident is never even reported to authorities. And most criminal acts committed by Trump supporters or his detractors have nothing to do with the president. But in 36 cases, court records and police reports indicated some sort of link.

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Donny boy today endorsed Curt Schilling, an Avowed white nationalist who collects Nazi memorabilia, denies the holocaust, claims Sandy Hook was a false flag operation and whose company stole multiple millions of dollars by filing false financial statements with the state of Rhode Island to get a grant to supposedly hire a thousand new workers. No workers were hired, the company went belly up and the money disappeared.
Even more bizarrely, trump seems to think he should be in the baseball hall of fame.

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bill, are you only accusing President Trump of inciting violence in American communities?

If you are, then you really need to do some research before making such a flippant statement.

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29 cases where Trump is mentioned either during the attack or in court as the reason behind the violence.
Zero cases where anyone brought up either of the last two Presidents. Quite a coincidence, except it's not.
It's not a flippant statement. It's a fact.
You want to argue the difference between inciting and inspiring , go ahead. I never said he was inciting the violence. In any event, Trump is linked to these cases.
For example- when a man living in a van decked out in Trump propaganda sends bombs to politicians and news agencies that Donny declared enemies of the people, what do you you say? That trump incited it, inspired it or would the guy have done it anyways?
When trump calls people seeking sanctuary an invasion and a moronic wannabe nazi mows down innocents to stop the non existent invaders, are you saying he is blameless?

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President Donald Trump has repeatedly refused to accept any responsibility for inciting violence in American communities, dismissing critics who have pointed to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration for some citizens acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.

The above was the very first line of your post. How can you say that you never said he was inciting the violence?

President Trump should not shoulder the blame based on the actions of a "Moronic Nazi" anymore than he should shoulder the blame for something you do. The only person who should be shouldering the blame is the person committing the action.

It is merely your opinion that President Trump is linked to the cases that which you cite.

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billryan wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:07 am
Donny boy today endorsed Curt Schilling, an Avowed white nationalist who collects Nazi memorabilia, denies the holocaust, claims Sandy Hook was a false flag operation and whose company stole multiple millions of dollars by filing false financial statements with the state of Rhode Island to get a grant to supposedly hire a thousand new workers. No workers were hired, the company went belly up and the money disappeared.
Even more bizarrely, trump seems to think he should be in the baseball hall of fame.
Well based on his career, he should be in the Hall of Fame. But he won't get in because of hos politics.

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Carcounter wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:28 am
billryan wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:07 am
Donny boy today endorsed Curt Schilling, an Avowed white nationalist who collects Nazi memorabilia, denies the holocaust, claims Sandy Hook was a false flag operation and whose company stole multiple millions of dollars by filing false financial statements with the state of Rhode Island to get a grant to supposedly hire a thousand new workers. No workers were hired, the company went belly up and the money disappeared.
Even more bizarrely, trump seems to think he should be in the baseball hall of fame.
Well based on his career, he should be in the Hall of Fame. But he won't get in because of hos politics.

A career long starting pitcher doesn't belong in the Hall with 216 wins, barring unforeseen circumstances like career ending injuries. Schilling belongs in the Hall of the very good players who are almost in, but not quite. Just too many mediocre seasons sandwiched around a few good ones. It took him six seasons before his first 16 win year, and only won 16 or more five times while playing on some pretty good teams.
He also had eight seasons where he lost more than he won.
Tweeting his support of lynching journalist wasn't helpful to his cause, nor his bizarre interview where he told the male interviewer he was lying when the man said he didn't find 12 year old boys attractive. Google it. It was a very strange segment where Schilling tries to defend trumps remarks about " I'll be dating her in ten years "by claiming it's natural to be attracted to children of both sexes and ended up reminding the audience Hillary killed four people in Bengazhi.
Personally, I would hope that anyone who openly collects Nazi memorabilia wouldn't have a chance of being elected to Congress but it seems like more Nazis are coming out of the closet themselves now that they have a friend in the White House.

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