MARKETS,Anybody even yet?

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Re: MARKETS,Anybody even yet?

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Most important quad. Plus VIX subdued. FAA +1%.
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Now if that beginning bounce can hold and head up another 2 percent, I will jump on sqqq again. IMO, the trend is still down. Old saying I guess everybody knows…… Let the trend be your friend……

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:05 pm
Old saying I guess everybody knows…… Let the trend be your friend……
I'm not sophisticated enough for that. I only try to buy cheap things, and sell expensive things.

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If you’re not the manager, it’s much more convoluted. The expensive advisors essentially force my hand into staying long.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

Same with my brother and sister. One on one coast. One on the other. Similar advice. Neither of these high priced specials could even match the general 27 percent market returns in I think 2021.

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:59 pm
Neither of these high priced specials could even match the general 27 percent market returns in I think 2021.
I don't know how they benchmark their performance, but there's more to life than the S&P 500.

For 2021 (total return according to Morningstar), VT Total World was only +18%. BND Total Bond Market was -2%.

For a typical 60/40 portfolio, weighted average is 10%. Without further details, I think anything in double digits would be good performance for 2021.

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Most of 2020 and 2021 investing was shooting fish in a barrel. I continued my vanilla portfolio in a generous window. I return after a sabbatical, go all in aggressive, the world is crashing down. I can’t explain it, only experience it.

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Worst stock sectors this morning are discretionary and energy. Best is staples.

Same thing happened in March 2020 when inflation was off the radar. Markets are starting to worry more about the economy than prices. If this continues, we should see a rebound in the long Treasury bond.

My buys this morning include:

international ETFs: EPOL, VEA
energy: INT, PBR, YPF
double-digit (% down) disasters: ATUS, BZH

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Post by olds442jetaway »

I got it wrong this time. I was hoping for a bounce. Wildman got it right with sqqq. Market off 700 as I write this my post above I meant to specify the Dow performance for 2 years was up 27 percent. I think Nasdaq was similar for the 2 year period

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:42 am
my post above I meant to specify the Dow performance for 2 years was up 27 percent. I think Nasdaq was similar for the 2 year period
I wasn't disputing your numbers. Here are some ETFs ranked by 10-year average return:

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Btw, VTI is USA-only.

If you had any degree of diversification whatsoever, you would have lagged the top 3.

Also btw, for 2022 the top 3 is now the bottom 3 (3 of the bottom 4, to be precise).

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