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Tedlark
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OMT, I believe nomadgurl may be talking about shared profits from a Native American owned casino. Usually, a percentage of the casino's profits is split among tribal members but I am a bit suspect of the amount stated as it seems a bit higher than other numbers that I have seen.

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Post by onemoretry »

Thanks for that explanation. It makes a lot more sense than what I said.

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hophoofer wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:22 pm
Since the games are not regulated in Native American casinos, they are excluded from my conversation by default.
Your point may be factually correct Hop, and i don't mean to disagree with you,but there is a supposed regulatory agency called The Indian Gaming Regulatory Commission.
I have been trying,for about six months, to find out what they do,how they do it,and what info. is available about results of any checks that they do.
I have been completely stonewalled at the casino level and repeated attempts to inquire at the IGRC have not been answered.
Not sure what is going on but at this point your "not regulated" seems to be correct.

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tech58 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:55 pm
hophoofer wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:22 pm
Since the games are not regulated in Native American casinos, they are excluded from my conversation by default.
Your point may be factually correct Hop, and i don't mean to disagree with you,but there is a supposed regulatory agency called The Indian Gaming Regulatory Commission.
I have been trying,for about six months, to find out what they do,how they do it,and what info. is available about results of any checks that they do.
I have been completely stonewalled at the casino level and repeated attempts to inquire at the IGRC have not been answered.
Not sure what is going on but at this point your "not regulated" seems to be correct.
Hophoofer/Tech58 you are both wrong regarding Native American casinos in Arizona. I don't know about other states but games (and other casino operations) in Native American casinos in Arizona are regulated by the Arizona Department of Gaming under the Tribal-State Gaming Compact. Since they are regulated by the state government, Hop you should not have excluded them.https://gaming.az.gov/tribal-gaming/com ... nforcement

There are links to all relevant documents including the compact from the linked page.

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I tried once before to explain to tech58 that the "National Indian Gaming Commission" oversees gaming on Reservations which DO NOT have established gaming compacts with whatever state the tribal lands may be located in. In cases where there is no compact between a Tribe and a State (Arizona would NOT be one) the only ALLOWED casino gaming would be class II gaming only.

See the below:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geKaB ... Gs4lSKjgI-

And:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ7JW ... BRn2uOtPE-

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Post by Player422738 »

OTABILL wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:26 pm
tech58 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:55 pm
hophoofer wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:22 pm
Since the games are not regulated in Native American casinos, they are excluded from my conversation by default.
Your point may be factually correct Hop, and i don't mean to disagree with you,but there is a supposed regulatory agency called The Indian Gaming Regulatory Commission.
I have been trying,for about six months, to find out what they do,how they do it,and what info. is available about results of any checks that they do.
I have been completely stonewalled at the casino level and repeated attempts to inquire at the IGRC have not been answered.
Not sure what is going on but at this point your "not regulated" seems to be correct.
Hophoofer/Tech58 you are both wrong regarding Native American casinos in Arizona. I don't know about other states but games (and other casino operations) in Native American casinos in Arizona are regulated by the Arizona Department of Gaming under the Tribal-State Gaming Compact. Since they are regulated by the state government, Hop you should not have excluded them.https://gaming.az.gov/tribal-gaming/com ... nforcement

There are links to all relevant documents including the compact from the linked page.
There is no way for me to get their revenue/profit numbers since they are not required to publish them, so there is no way for me to know if they are profit or not.

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Post by nomadgurl »

There is a tribe up in the Minneapolis area , Shakopee Mdewakanton with about 460 members who make a happy $84,000.00 A month from the casino totaling out over 1 million a year . It’s easy for me to see when I walk into a casino and it’s just packed with people shoving money into those slot machines hoping to win the big one

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Post by tech58 »

Tedlark wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:51 pm
I tried once before to explain to tech58 that the "National Indian Gaming Commission" oversees gaming on Reservations which DO NOT have established gaming compacts with whatever state the tribal lands may be located in. In cases where there is no compact between a Tribe and a State (Arizona would NOT be one) the only ALLOWED casino gaming would be class II gaming only.

See the below:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geKaB ... Gs4lSKjgI-

And:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ7JW ... BRn2uOtPE-
Ted,i have gained good info. from your links and previous posts on other threads. I also understand that my home casino has compact with the state of MI. (or had, because it expired in 2013 and has not been renewed).
However in all the info. i have seen so far, including toiling thru some very painful legalize on, The Office Of Indian Gaming,The National Indian Gaming Commission, and The Michigan Gaming Control Board, I find not one single word about the one single,very simple thing, i have been trying to determine. WHO CHECKS THE DAMN MACHINES??? A simple quest for knowledge nothing more nor less.
From the casino level, to the state level, to the national level, only stone-walling answers from "none of your business" to "I don't know" and many false leads in between.
Try as i may i failed to get this point thru to some on this site.
I have been called a "conspiracy theorist" and a fool to play machines i "think are rigged", despite the fact that i have stated,several times, that i did not believe that to be the case.
I suspect that the only exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions.

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Post by OTABILL »

tech58 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:12 am
Tedlark wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:51 pm
I tried once before to explain to tech58 that the "National Indian Gaming Commission" oversees gaming on Reservations which DO NOT have established gaming compacts with whatever state the tribal lands may be located in. In cases where there is no compact between a Tribe and a State (Arizona would NOT be one) the only ALLOWED casino gaming would be class II gaming only.

See the below:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geKaB ... Gs4lSKjgI-

And:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ7JW ... BRn2uOtPE-
Ted,i have gained good info. from your links and previous posts on other threads. I also understand that my home casino has compact with the state of MI. (or had, because it expired in 2013 and has not been renewed).
However in all the info. i have seen so far, including toiling thru some very painful legalize on, The Office Of Indian Gaming,The National Indian Gaming Commission, and The Michigan Gaming Control Board, I find not one single word about the one single,very simple thing, i have been trying to determine. WHO CHECKS THE DAMN MACHINES??? A simple quest for knowledge nothing more nor less.
From the casino level, to the state level, to the national level, only stone-walling answers from "none of your business" to "I don't know" and many false leads in between.
Try as i may i failed to get this point thru to some on this site.
I have been called a "conspiracy theorist" and a fool to play machines i "think are rigged", despite the fact that i have stated,several times, that i did not believe that to be the case.
I suspect that the only exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions.
Not sure how or why Michigan did their compacts with the tribes but I'm glad here in AZ the State seemed to have its act together including the authority to check machines at Tribal casinos.

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Post by tech58 »

OTABILL, Thanks for comment about AZ. I also believe NV. has a similar setup but Mi. is still a mystery.
My next tactic is to see if either AZ. or NV. has a public report of their checks and results. Any clue on how i might do that would be appreciated.

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