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l have a question for a person who actually knows this, advanced knowledge of poke machines needed, when a casino gets a slot machine, they set the payout by programing more or less winning spins being done. so.... i know that a casino changes the payout in vp by changing , basically the full house and flush payouts, like 9 and 6 to a 8 and 5 etc. can a casino or manufacturer also change the amount of winning hands dealt, basically all ten cards since five are out and five are behind, to deal less winning combos also?/ seems that casinos off strip and fremont hit winning hands way more than strip casinos. any thoughts??

You will probably get many, many responses. The short answer to your question is : no, not legally.

Your ten card scenario is not correct for today's modern vp machines, which deal five random cards, and continue "shuffling" the remainder, until additional ones are requested.

In case anybody is wondering whether onemoretry's answer is accurate or not, I agree with what he/she said 100% --- assuming you're excluding games in Washington State and at New York State racinos --- where you do NOT get a random draw.

Bob, by chance do u have any knowledge of the type of vp machines in Aruba especially at the Westin, Raddison, or the big one in downtown Aruba. By type, I mean I guess class 2 or 3. Hopefully, the class 3 ones really are random. We are planning abother trip down there soon Thanks in advance

BobDancer wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:20 pm

In case anybody is wondering whether onemoretry's answer is accurate or not, I agree with what he/she said 100% --- assuming you're excluding games in Washington State and at New York State racinos --- where you do NOT get a random draw.

And Class II Indian casinos.

olds442jetaway wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:56 am

Bob, by chance do u have any knowledge of the type of vp machines in Aruba especially at the Westin, Raddison, or the big one in downtown Aruba. By type, I mean I guess class 2 or 3. Hopefully, the class 3 ones really are random. We are planning abother trip down there soon Thanks in advance

By this article the paytables are rough on the machines he found. So Vegas style is likely.

https://wizardofodds.com/blog/aruba/

One of my Untappd friends goes a lot and found 7/5 Bonus for quarters at both Eagle Beach casinos.

what is different in Washington state and indian casino ?

cocopuffs wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:03 pm

what is different in Washington state and indian casino ?

A class II machine offered in WA state and at some Indian Casinos (some also offer Class III machines) has a pre-determined result. Meaning it doesn't matter what you hold, you're going to get the answer that was pre-determined. Said another way... the deal is not a random deal from a deck of 52 cards. They can therefore set the percentage payback to be whatever they like by pushing out more losing deals.

Class III machines are totally random machines where you're shuffling the deck as if you had a real life deal.

To add to rsactuary wrote: If you are playing a class II machine, when you press deal and it is predetermined that you will be dealt a four of a kind, you can discard all 5 cards and receive the same value four of a kind on the draw. So if you are dealt: 666K6 on the deal and you discard all 5 cards you'll get draw an equal value four of a kind on the draw.

Agree with Ted. What is weirder is that you can keep only two of the 6's and the K, discard the other two 6's and still get paid for four of a kind, even though there is no possible draw from the 47 remaining cards that would yield such an outcome.