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Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:23 pm
by Jstark
I've yet to get a chance to relook at the help screen. When I do, I'll update.

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:19 pm
by Jstark
Ok, the 5.049 and 6.05 respectively are correct:
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I played for a few minutes and hit a couple of decent hands:
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Started with $18.00 and quit after the 12x hand.

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 pm
by Vman96
Yeah, I did the math on this months ago for my own knowledge. Was highly disappointed at the return not being boosted by even 0.01%.
rsactuary wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:28 am
I played this at South Point and quite liked it. Yes, the Nevada gaming laws say that an extra feature must keep total return the same or better than just the typical VP return, so something is amiss in the numbers above. Clearly the wheels are weighted in some way.
You sure that's a law? I've never noticed it on the books. But generally it's followed in practice. Also shocked SP had this. I thought they stopped getting new gimmick games years ago. Paytables there?

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:43 pm
by Jstark
there is a duplicate picture in my OP. Here is the last page of the rules screen:
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Just as in Hot Roll Poker, the multiplier may be awarded on the deal or on the draw.

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:44 pm
by Player422738
Vman96 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 pm
Yeah, I did the math on this months ago for my own knowledge. Was highly disappointed at the return not being boosted by even 0.01%.
rsactuary wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:28 am
I played this at South Point and quite liked it. Yes, the Nevada gaming laws say that an extra feature must keep total return the same or better than just the typical VP return, so something is amiss in the numbers above. Clearly the wheels are weighted in some way.
You sure that's a law? I've never noticed it on the books. But generally it's followed in practice. Also shocked SP had this. I thought they stopped getting new gimmick games years ago. Paytables there?
Actually the hot roll game returns exactly same as betting 5 credits. Just 0.00% more.

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:44 pm
by Jstark
I couldn't get a picture of it, but a gentleman today got a dealt royal with a 6x on triple play quarters for $18,000.

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:17 am
by melon1301
cool game!!

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:25 am
by Player422738
The payout of this game seems very bad. Anyone spotted a good pay table yet?

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:39 pm
by Vman96
hophoofer wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:44 pm
Vman96 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 pm
Yeah, I did the math on this months ago for my own knowledge. Was highly disappointed at the return not being boosted by even 0.01%.
rsactuary wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:28 am
I played this at South Point and quite liked it. Yes, the Nevada gaming laws say that an extra feature must keep total return the same or better than just the typical VP return, so something is amiss in the numbers above. Clearly the wheels are weighted in some way.
You sure that's a law? I've never noticed it on the books. But generally it's followed in practice. Also shocked SP had this. I thought they stopped getting new gimmick games years ago. Paytables there?
Actually the hot roll game returns exactly same as betting 5 credits. Just 0.00% more.
Yeah, that made me mad too when I saw that on the media sheet. They could have easily chose the odds to trigger a dice roll something like 1 in 5.95, which would add 0.42% to a 100% base return game.

Good paytables? Meh. I think Cosmo might have 9/6 TDB. I'll try to check in a few weeks. What is nice is it seems the few nickel games i've found offer 8/5 Bonus Deluxe which isn't awful for nickels. But if South Point has it, it's really likely the paytable is good. I'll also try to check that. Lol

Re: New game: "Double Big Wheel Poker"

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:39 am
by Jstark
Vman96 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:39 pm
hophoofer wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:44 pm
Vman96 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 pm
Yeah, I did the math on this months ago for my own knowledge. Was highly disappointed at the return not being boosted by even 0.01%.
rsactuary wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:28 am
I played this at South Point and quite liked it. Yes, the Nevada gaming laws say that an extra feature must keep total return the same or better than just the typical VP return, so something is amiss in the numbers above. Clearly the wheels are weighted in some way.
You sure that's a law? I've never noticed it on the books. But generally it's followed in practice. Also shocked SP had this. I thought they stopped getting new gimmick games years ago. Paytables there?
Actually the hot roll game returns exactly same as betting 5 credits. Just 0.00% more.
Yeah, that made me mad too when I saw that on the media sheet. They could have easily chose the odds to trigger a dice roll something like 1 in 5.95, which would add 0.42% to a 100% base return game.

Good paytables? Meh. I think Cosmo might have 9/6 TDB. I'll try to check in a few weeks. What is nice is it seems the few nickel games i've found offer 8/5 Bonus Deluxe which isn't awful for nickels. But if South Point has it, it's really likely the paytable is good. I'll also try to check that. Lol
I checked out the ones here last night. 9/6 TDB was the highest payback.