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So is this game basically Double Super Times, with more multipliers because you are betting 10 instead of 7?

Eduardo wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:23 pm

So is this game basically Double Super Times, with more multipliers because you are betting 10 instead of 7?

It's much closer to "Hot Roll" variance wise.

I guess I forgot about Hot Roll because I haven't tried it out in the casino before. 6 credits on Super Times is variancey enough for me!

If I'm going to bet 10, I guess I still prefer Ultimate X. Multipliers are frequent and you at least feel you have some "control" over earning them. I also enjoy Super Draw 6 if I'm going to make a bigger bet. You get the "bonus" on that one every hand.

Long streaks without a completely random bonus are hard on my nerves (and my limited bankroll).

I can see how people would enjoy these games on a smaller denom than they usually play. But at the quarter level I could be in real trouble.

Eduardo wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:23 pm

So is this game basically Double Super Times, with more multipliers because you are betting 10 instead of 7?

Double super pay the multiplier shows 1 in 15, average multiplier is 4.05. The multiplier per game is 1.00277, which is better than this game for the same base pay.

Hey hh, I like a lot of your posts. But I think here you are quoting information for Super Times Pay rather than Double Super Times Pay.

With DSTP, since you can get a multiplier on both the deal and the draw, you get a multiplier on 1 hand in about 7.7586. This is the reciprocal of the probability, 1/15 + 1/15 - 1/225 = 29/225. And I think the average multiplier is 4.01, slightly smaller than STP. Since you can get 2 multipliers on one hand one time in 225, the effective multiplier is (1/15 - 1/225) x 4.01 x 2 + (1/225) x 8.02 or about 4.1483. This doesn't include the few times that the special rule allows 20x for a dealt royal with a deal multiplier.

Not including the 1 in 9.75 million hand special rule, the adjustment to the base game EV is 1.004127; so the overall adjustment is generally about half a percent, superior to the earlier STP games' 1.002778.

I have an undeserved special preference for DSTP since it once gifted me with a dealt 5-play quarter royal. Alas, there was no multiplier, so I had to be happy with a $5,000 jackpot.

Nice surprise for a jackpot. Awesome.

New2vp wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:15 am

I have an undeserved special preference for DSTP since it once gifted me with a dealt 5-play quarter royal. Alas, there was no multiplier, so I had to be happy with a $5,000 jackpot.

One of these years.....


https://youtu.be/BWjNuN9N6yY

Jstark wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:24 pm

New2vp wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:15 am

I have an undeserved special preference for DSTP since it once gifted me with a dealt 5-play quarter royal. Alas, there was no multiplier, so I had to be happy with a $5,000 jackpot.

One of these years.....


https://youtu.be/BWjNuN9N6yY

If he played 10 hands...

Jstark wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:24 pm

New2vp wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:15 am

I have an undeserved special preference for DSTP since it once gifted me with a dealt 5-play quarter royal. Alas, there was no multiplier, so I had to be happy with a $5,000 jackpot.

One of these years.....


https://youtu.be/BWjNuN9N6yY

He lied. He still plays the game even after catching the "unicorn".

I love DSTP, I just don't play it often because paytables are often meh. :(

Will VideoPoker.com get this game added to the website? I hope so

Thank you

Kimberly