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Double Super times pay

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:04 am
by Csak47100
So I just read some information on double super times pay on wizard of odds but these have better odds than normal video poker machine with 7 coin play ? For example it says for 9-6 JOB normally it is 99.54% return but with double super times pay 7 - coin play it is now 100.05% return . Does that edge come from the automatically 20 x bonus on dealt royal flush ?

I love super times pay but usually the denomination is very low and pay table is very bad right ?

Re: Double Super times pay

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:10 am
by Waiting4RF
Part of the increased return is from getting dealt a royal and a multiplier on the deal. That gives you an automatic 20x multiplier. But the chance of that happening is about one in 9 million. Paytables are reduced on DSTP.

Re: Double Super times pay

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:30 am
by Csak47100
Yea that’s what I thought , I Always see lousy pay tables on DSTP

Re: Double Super times pay

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:36 am
by Csak47100
How about if we took out the dealt royal 20x bonus from DSTP ? Would it be negative EV off too compared to standard JOB 9-6 5 - coin ?

Re: Double Super times pay

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:36 am
by Csak47100
Top*

Re: Double Super times pay

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:57 am
by Player422738
Waiting4RF wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:10 am
one in 9 million
Or 0.

Re: Double Super times pay

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:23 pm
by Jstark
Csak47100 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:36 am
How about if we took out the dealt royal 20x bonus from DSTP ? Would it be negative EV off too compared to standard JOB 9-6 5 - coin ?
STP adds 0.26. So my guess is just double that to 0.52. Again guessing, the automatic 20x on a dealt royal with a deal, not draw, multiplier would be the rest of it to get the 100.05 on 9/6 JoB. Highly unlikely you'll ever find this in a casino though. I personally got spoiled with 9/6 JoB STP Spin Poker (99.82%) until that was removed.

Re: Double Super times pay

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:21 pm
by BobDancer
DSTP adds "about" 0.5% --- as you say --- but it varies from game type to game type.

Re: Double Super times pay

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:04 pm
by Jstark
My above post should be 0.28 for 9/6 JoB STP, not 0.26.

Here the WoO page on DSTP.


https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-po ... times-pay/