State of Casinos

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Re: State of Casinos

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[QUOTE=billyjoe] [QUOTE=Vman96]At the moment Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston (sorta) disagrees with you. But generally speaking, we are there in a lot of areas.
Many Atlanta residents frequent Cherokee, NC. It's about 3 hours, depending where in Atlanta you start.
 
The state of Texas is a whole other matter..[/QUOTE]

An understatement bj. Texas has so much potential but doesn't even allow Native American tribes like those in East Texas or El Paso to have casino - they been sued and threatened every time they broach the issue.

Too much fear from Texas State Govt. that people wouldn't make good choices - so they'll make it for us.

I've heard La reports indicate up to 75% of Lake Charles $2+ million/day is from Texas.[/QUOTE]Larry, did you forget the Native American casino in Eagle Pass, TX? They just completed their new expansion.  (Slot Machines And Gaming Tables Only, No Video Poker)

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I had forgotten all about the Kickapoo Eagle Pass casino. But, the Kickapoo may not be allowed to operate much longer. The Texas Atty General, Greg Abbott-running for Gov. (and former Atty General –now Tex. Sen. John Cornyn) is fighting the license and the case is headed to the US Supreme Court.

Texas gambling history also includes the sordid gambling shenanigans involving: Jack Abramoff, Ralph E. Reed, Jr., Grover Norquist, Michael Scanlon and Tom Delay. These include event that led to the conviction of lobbyist Jack Abramoff. In short Abramhoff was taking lobbying money from the tribes who wanted gambling licenses and then “double dealing” and working against them through a money laundering scheme with Ralph Reed (Christian Conservative) to lobby against them. He would also work the tribes against themselves.

A brief history of Texas’s Native Indian gambling:

In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that since federally recognized Indian tribes are considered sovereign entities they could have casinos outside of state jurisdiction.
Texas has three federally-recognized tribes:
•     Alabama-Coushatta Tribe of Texas
•     Kickapoo Traditional Tribe of Texas
•     Tigua Reservation

This 1987 Supreme Court ruling led to the 1987 Registration Act followed by the 1988 Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA). Only the Kickapoo Traditional Tribe of Texas is authorized under the IGRA to operate a casino. The Tigua and Alabama-Coushatta tribes were granted federal recognition under the 1987 Indian Restoration Act, but were specifically prohibited by that act from casino operations.

Kickapoo Lucky Eagle Casino
In 1996 the Kickapoo established the Lucky Eagle Casino in the small town of Eagle Pass about 100 miles south of San Antonio.
In 2008 the Texas Attorney General’s office sued over the legality of the casino even though the Kickapoo are an IGRA tribe. The case is now before the U.S. Supreme Court after the tribe lost in the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Tigua’s Speaking Rock Casino
In 1992 the Tigua tribe of El Paso petitioned Governor Ann Richards to negotiate a gaming compact for an Indian casino on their reservation, however, the governor rejected their request. The Tigua felt their rights under federal law were ignored, so in 1993, they opened the Speaking Rock Casino without state approval. That began a ten year battle in the courts over the legality of their casino……The final judicial decision came in January 2002 when the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against the tribe.

The Tigua reopened the Speaking Rock Casino in 2007 without a court order, so in March 2008 the Office of the Attorney General filed a Contempt of Court Motion against the Tigua.

Alabama-Coushatta Casino
In 2001 the Alabama-Coushatta Tribe of Texas opened a tribal casino in Livingston, Texas. After nine months of operations it was forced to close after the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the tribe was violating the 1987 Indian Restoration Act which prohibited their operating a casino. The casino generated $1 million/month for its tribal members during is operation.

http://500nations.com/Texas_Casinos.asp ... asinos.asp


The Jack Abramoff Native American lobbying scandal is a United States political scandal relating to the work performed by political lobbyists Jack Abramoff, Ralph E. Reed, Jr., Grover Norquist and Michael Scanlon on Native American casino gambling interests for an estimated $85 million in fees. Abramoff and Scanlon grossly overbilled their clients, secretly splitting the multimillion-dollar profits. In one case, they were secretly orchestrating lobbying against their own clients in order to force them to pay for lobbying services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abram ... ng_scandal

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And for those of us who live west of Houston (Austin), it is a 5 and 1/2 hour drive to Lake Charles - we have to go through Houston.  And a 5 and 1/2 hour drive to Winstar in OK.  I don't count the Eagle Pass Casino because it has no video poker.  NO FUN!


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  In 5 1/2 hours I could drive to casinos in: Minnesota; Wisconsin; Iowa; Misouri; Southern Indiana; Cincinnati Ohio; Toledo Ohio; New Buffalo Michigan; Detroit Michigan, and more. This doesn't count those in Illinois and northern Indiana that are an hour away. Man I am so spoiled.

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  In 5 1/2 hours I could drive to casinos in: Minnesota; Wisconsin; Iowa; Misouri; Southern Indiana; Cincinnati Ohio; Toledo Ohio; New Buffalo Michigan; Detroit Michigan, and more. This doesn't count those in Illinois and northern Indiana that are an hour away. Man I am so spoiled.

That 5 1/2 hours will put you a little over a 1/3 of the way across Texas depending on when you hit the major cities. Driving I-10 across Texas takes almost 15 hours (at 60 mph) and provides a diverse and interesting 879 miles (swamps to hills to deserts). North to South (790 miles) takes longer since there is no Interstate Hwy running N/S. This is one of the reasons many Texas highways are posted at 75-85 mph besides it helps increase State gas tax money. Why would we need gambling tax money?

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And for those of us who live west of Houston (Austin), it is a 5 and 1/2 hour drive to Lake Charles - we have to go through Houston.  And a 5 and 1/2 hour drive to Winstar in OK.  I don't count the Eagle Pass Casino because it has no video poker.  NO FUN!



If you head to Lake Charles, take the speedier way jumping off I-10 tot Hwy 73 at Winnie through Port Arthur back to i-10. Often quicker because of Beaumont area traffic - divided 4 lanes-posted 75mph.

Sure would be nice to elect pro-gambling supporters. Can you imagine going to San Antonio Riverwalk, Corpus Christi, Galveston, etc to enjoy great food and gamble? Just think how much $$$ we're losing on cruise ship passengers alone leaving Galveston who could gamble. So the State protects us from wasting our money on sinful gambling and also has the highest number of uninsured citizens in the nation.

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Post by custdisp »

I believe cruise ship gambling is the best as there are free cruises, drinks and meals

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custdisp wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:24 pm
I believe cruise ship gambling is the best as there are free cruises, drinks and meals
I must disagree.

Cruise ship gambling is closer to being the worst than it is to being the best.

Yes they offer "free" cruises if you play their 96% games a lot. This ends up costing you quite a bit more than retail.

The cruse ship casinos are so much tighter than land-based casinos because they have a "captive audience." Players who want to play can't go anywhere else. And there will always be people who are bored with everything to do on a ship and will play any pay schedule you put in front of them. And so the ship casinos put terrible ones there to take advantage of this situation.

I've average three weeks of cruises a year for the past 15 years --- and have only played at such times as a promotion where you get $125 of casino credit that you have to play through once for $100. That promotion lasted several years on NCL, but it was limited to a rather small amount each year.

Otherwise, although I periodically check out the ship=board casinos, I've found no games that are close to being playable (which I define as giving me the advantage.) If you have a less-restrictive definition of playability and don't mind adding to the casino coffers, you can find lots of games there.

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