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Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:09 pm
by billryan
stevel96a1 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:01 pm
billryan wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:27 pm
Webman wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:40 am
Stevel96a1,I know you might be frustrated with some folks here, but this sort of name calling isn't permitted in the forum. Please take a different approach in your future posts.
It seems he is frustrated with something else and takes it out on people here.
unlike you bill when someone attacks me i defend myself by attacking back, while you just lay there =)
I don't just lay there. I turn the cheek and hope the person will someday learn the error of their ways.
There are some exceptions. I don't mind when people disagree with me but when someone like notes simply makes up lies about me, I also get upset.

Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:47 am
by MedzPoker
Very cool Azure dragon. It’s the only hand in any video poker game I am yet to land. (I only ever play single hand VP though.)

Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:24 am
by onemoretry
onemoretry wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:55 am
olds442jetaway wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:21 am
I believe the Jack. Will wait for the answer.
That's what it looks like to me, as well.
Oh darn, we got it wrong. In my defence, I don't play for sequential royals, and therefore "forgot" about the reverse sequential one. (the queen is in place for a sequential in either direction, while the jack is not).

Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 am
by billryan
Knowing nothing about sequential Royals, I wen t with the Jack, as well.

Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:09 am
by OTABILL
onemoretry wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:24 am
onemoretry wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:55 am
olds442jetaway wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:21 am
I believe the Jack. Will wait for the answer.
That's what it looks like to me, as well.
Oh darn, we got it wrong. In my defence, I don't play for sequential royals, and therefore "forgot" about the reverse sequential one. (the queen is in place for a sequential in either direction, while the jack is not).
The Jack. However small the percentage, there are more possible straight draws holding the Jack vs the Queen..

Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:35 pm
by onemoretry
OTABILL wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:09 am
The Jack. However small the percentage, there are more possible straight draws holding the Jack vs the Queen..
Wouldn't the value of twice the chance to hit the sequential royal outweigh that of the extra straights (and straight flushes) gained by holding the jack vs. the queen?

Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:11 pm
by billryan
onemoretry wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:35 pm
OTABILL wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:09 am
The Jack. However small the percentage, there are more possible straight draws holding the Jack vs the Queen..
Wouldn't the value of twice the chance to hit the sequential royal outweigh that of the extra straights (and straight flushes) gained by holding the jack vs. the queen?
It seems like that is the case.

Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:53 pm
by Player422738
Seq royal pays 0.028 (50000 / 1.8M) credit.

Without Seq royal pay, on 6/5 Bonus poker (base pay is 96.x%), holding both J and Q pays 2.52 credits. Holding either J (2.33) or Q (2.30) is inferior.

With Seq royal pay, holding Q can be improved to 2.30 + 0.028 = 2.328, and it can surpass holding single J once the progressive gets a bit higher.

However, you should never go for a single card unless Seq royal goes up to about 350K (1.8M * (2.52-2.328)) credits. The best play most of time is holding both J and Q in this hand.

(All calculation above is simplified by not considering the impacts on over all strategy change adding Seq Royal. But the impact is negligible since the odds of hitting Seq is so slim.)

Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:17 am
by Jstark
I have 5 sequentials to my name so far. Here is the most recent from late last year.
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Re: Sequential Royal

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:52 pm
by Player422738
hophoofer wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:53 pm
Seq royal pays 0.028 (50000 / 1.8M) credit.

Without Seq royal pay, on 6/5 Bonus poker (base pay is 96.x%), holding both J and Q pays 2.52 credits. Holding either J (2.33) or Q (2.30) is inferior.

With Seq royal pay, holding Q can be improved to 2.30 + 0.028 = 2.328, and it can surpass holding single J once the progressive gets a bit higher.

However, you should never go for a single card unless Seq royal goes up to about 350K (1.8M * (2.52-2.328)) credits. The best play most of time is holding both J and Q in this hand.

(All calculation above is simplified by not considering the impacts on over all strategy change adding Seq Royal. But the impact is negligible since the odds of hitting Seq is so slim.)
Just want to point it out...With Seq royal pay, holding J is 2.33 + 0.014 = 2.344