Gambling Theories

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wildman49
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Re: Gambling Theories

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stevel96a1 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:45 pm


no bubble burst, and i am only trying this tactic with free play, and with my card and wife card free play i can cash out something even after losing 8 hands in a row its still worth the risk, and if i land big hand that pays for the future loses that will happen, i wouldn't dare play this with my own money from work but watching people on youtube with their 2500$ free play why play .25? feels more and more like pennys or 1/10 of pennys, and i could never win at atlantic city maybe because their offers were crap with a measly 20 or 40$ per day what a joke.
To get 2k in free play one has to put many bucks thru the machines to get it. You Tube is full of people that show you their wins but not much on showing there losing trips. Good luck on your Theories

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Post by billryan »

wildman49 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:30 pm
Steve you really got to understand the math of the game your playing. Every game you have available in your area is a losing game over time. Yes you can hit the royal on your first hand . But over time you will give it back. I have had well over 100 royals at the casino and given most everyone back. The real money is in free play and promo plays. Once you understand this it's easy to make money.

When I say easy, I mean spending hours playing for entrees to drawings and spending time waiting on the draw.

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but you will never over time make money just playing the game itself.
Even with meaningful FREE play your best to break even over time..
I generally disagree with much that you post, but in this case, you are spot on. Every successful player I know exploits casino player clubs and promo plays. Several friends recently flew from Vegas to Colorado to exploit a promo. They flew in, and rented a car only to find the casino had severely limited the promo.
They turned around and left without playing a hand. I wouldn't have had the discipline to do that.

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Post by stevel96a1 »

its true in both problems, can't win 20k on a quarter machine and my free play cashout was way better when i played dollar some of it had to do with a better pay table but the other half was due to winning medium hands right away, and again if i land a premium hand during my cash out i say why not? and im certainly not going down with my money and expect to win thats a gamble i wouldnt want to afford. i'll keep ya posted on this weekend trip goes

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Post by wildman49 »

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I wouldn't have had the discipline to do that.
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Discipline is one of the biggest keys to holding on to profit. Most don't have it.

Many a time I walk in play off free play to the penny and walk out. Same goes for gas card days. If there is no need to play for a promo like entrees of some kind it don't bother me a bit to hit the road and not play. That is what an AP does to maximize the profit.

Every month is different, I only have 2 casinos to work promos. Some months there are not any I wish to hit. Other months like this month I been all over 2.

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Post by onemoretry »

"Free play" is not free. It is earned by your previous play, and isn't really any different than the money you earn from work, except you do have to play it through a machine. I don't understand the reasoning for adopting a different playing style when playing it off.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

FreePlay is definitely not free and it costs plenty to have it offered. In an average week, I run $20,000 through a machine or a combination of machines. I think partly due to Covid, the the Casino has upped recently the FreePlay offers. Currently, I believe they are up to offering about 1/2 of 1% of coin in which makes my play in a perfect World about dead even. If I were to strictly play 99.54 Jack’s or better, and hit the Royals over time about every 40,000 hands I would stay even with the current FreePlay they are offering. Unfortunately, this is not a perfect world. I make a few mistakes playing. Sometimes I play inferior Pay tables and a different game on a hunch. We all make mistakes playing either from playing too fast or even sometimes not holding the cards we should hold. All of that adds up over time and if you get in a cold cycle like I was just in and may be still in, you can lose 10% of coin in every trip very easily.

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Post by stevel96a1 »

onemoretry wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:16 pm
"Free play" is not free. It is earned by your previous play, and isn't really any different than the money you earn from work, except you do have to play it through a machine. I don't understand the reasoning for adopting a different playing style when playing it off.
as one youtuber says he brings 2k$ with him and plays 25$ a turn and doesn't always go busto infact he claims he goes on that 4 of a kind run we all experience and wins more often than not

wouldn't you up your ante if your previous years showed a profit? enuff said..

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Post by stevel96a1 »

onemoretry wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:16 pm
"Free play" is not free. It is earned by your previous play, and isn't really any different than the money you earn from work, except you do have to play it through a machine. I don't understand the reasoning for adopting a different playing style when playing it off.
well apparently the month of november is free it beats the snot of out atlantic city crummy joking free offers!

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Post by onemoretry »

stevel96a1 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:37 pm
...he claims he goes on that 4 of a kind run we all experience and wins more often than not
And you really believe that?

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Post by Jstark »

YouTube is full of bullshitters!

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