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Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 12:54 pm
by Carcounter
Yes, a 100.7% game if played perfectly. I practiced, but wasn't close to perfect, probably 100.5%. Still a good game. You needed to be more aggressive going for straights, flushes and straight flushes based on the enhanced payouts
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 1:42 pm
by dinghy
Example: QQJT9 rainbow, it was a major mistake to hold the QQ; you had to draw for the straight.
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 7:45 pm
by olds442jetaway
I just happened to notice by accident that Mohegan sun has all American poker on some of their machines. I didn’t check the pay tables and I’m not all that familiar with the game. But will try and remember to check it out next trip
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:19 pm
by dinghy
olds442jetaway wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:45 pm
I just happened to notice by accident that Mohegan sun has all American poker on some of their machines.
Presumably those are Bally machines. In Nevada I only see the IGT equivalent: USA Poker.
Original full pay was 40 for any quad and 8/8/8 in the middle. Now you'll find quads shorted to 35, 30 or 25; OR the middle shorted to 7/7/7.
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 6:32 am
by Carcounter
dinghy wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:19 pm
olds442jetaway wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:45 pm
I just happened to notice by accident that Mohegan sun has all American poker on some of their machines.
Presumably those are Bally machines. In Nevada I only see the IGT equivalent: USA Poker.
Original full pay was 40 for any quad and 8/8/8 in the middle. Now you'll find quads shorted to 35, 30 or 25; OR the middle shorted to 7/7/7.
Exactly. Olds, report back. Doubt they are full pay. Mohegan still has dollar full pay pick'em ?
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:34 am
by advantage playe
dinghy wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 11:59 am
Carcounter wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:16 am
Went extinct around 2007/2008 when the recession hit. Did very well on those for several years. They were in Multi game Game King machines.
Thanks, the timing makes sense. 2007 was probably the last of the dollar games nationwide, then quarters dried up by 2009.
I assume many of the Bally machines continued in use, but operators realized it wasn't a good idea to activate AA on the menu. Either that or possibly Bally updated the software to include a short-pay AA variant.
AA was a hard game to play correctly. If you used any kind of regular JoB strategy, you'd be far below 100%. And if you bet less than max, both SF and RF payoffs were shorted.
3 criteria Brains , bankroll , belly . That is belly as in guts. any of these missing and results may vary !!
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 12:07 pm
by Carcounter
advantage playe wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:34 am
dinghy wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 11:59 am
Carcounter wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:16 am
Went extinct around 2007/2008 when the recession hit. Did very well on those for several years. They were in Multi game Game King machines.
Thanks, the timing makes sense. 2007 was probably the last of the dollar games nationwide, then quarters dried up by 2009.
I assume many of the Bally machines continued in use, but operators realized it wasn't a good idea to activate AA on the menu. Either that or possibly Bally updated the software to include a short-pay AA variant.
AA was a hard game to play correctly. If you used any kind of regular JoB strategy, you'd be far below 100%. And if you bet less than max, both SF and RF payoffs were shorted.
3 criteria Brains , bankroll , belly . That is belly as in guts. any of these missing and results may vary !!
4th criteria, strong bladder. Ever have a good streak going, but have to go to bathroom? Of course, we all have.
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 4:34 am
by olds442jetaway
I think there are 2 dollar full pay pickem machines open in rhe Earth casino near the entrance to the Hall of Lost Tribes. I will have to search again for the All Anerican game. I know I just saw it, but was very tired at the time.
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 6:39 am
by Carcounter
olds442jetaway wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:34 am
I think there are 2 dollar full pay pickem machines open in rhe Earth casino near the entrance to the Hall of Lost Tribes. I will have to search again for the All Anerican game. I know I just saw it, but was very tired at the time.
The Pick'ems should be your game Olds.
Re: Dealt Quads
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 9:26 pm
by advantage playe
I know u dont like pickem olds , note the variance is 15 at pickem while 19.51 at job but in the very short run pickem is very volatile ! I suspect u had a few negative runs at pickem , it is 5 dollars a tug so have at least 5 grand access on a given trip . your theo results LONG RUN counting achievement awards free rooms ect gives u a free playground ! in fact u have the advantage !! Learn to like your friend pickem !!