Unusual Card Patterns

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Re: Unusual Card Patterns

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9/6 Jacks at this level it would have been too low to play intelligently. While it's been years since I was at the Borgata and things may have changed, the number of slot points per play is determined by the theoretical of the machine. 9/6 Jacks without a progressive gives more points than 9/6 Jacks with a progressive. Here you're getting fewer points without the benefit. (If no longer true at Borgata, please correct me.) Your mailers and comps are determined by theoretical. This stuff is important!
If FAA was merely playing off free play, the correct play. At most places you earn zero slot club points playing off free play (South Point is an exception to this), and if you're not going to be getting any points anyway, $1000.16 every 40,000 hands is infinitesimally better than $1000.
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Thank you for these comments. A minor correction: I was at Caesars; about to depart for Borgata before I scuttled. I was about ten hands into recycling my played off FP on a second machine. Basically, even if one were to grind all day once a week on these progressives, I assume that any mailer is a long shot. The slot club rate on these is 1TC:$50. So FP only forfeits half a TC.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

No spendable points at Mohegan Sun for machines over roughly 98.2 percent return. Only tier credits. No points awarded for free play. I used to carry 9,000 spendable points prior to 8/2011. Now I have zero. I was playing when they changed it over.
On the other hand, tier credits can be valuable. Depending on your reward level, extra free play is rewarded monthly as well as earning TC at a higher rate. Unless the management decides to maintain my Soar status, it will end Sept 30. It just isn’t worth running 2,000,000 through the machines every 6 months to maintain Soar status unless you have an advantage anyway which I don’t. I have never seen a 9/6 job progressive machine at Mohegan Sun.

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Post by TheDirector »

Olds, I do enjoy reading your posts but I can tell you that what you are stating to our dear fellow readers is 100% incorrect. There are multiple machines with games higher than this payout returning momentum dollars and I've been playing them for years. If you doubt the veracity of my statement, just ask Advantage Player. We go way back and he will attest that I have thoroughly catalogued each and every machine at MS.

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I don’t doubt your statement. I guess I will just have to take another survey myself. I know that any of the 9/6 machines I have found, do not award Momentum Dollars. I will look again, but I don’t think the dollar pickem machines award Momentum dollars either. I don’t play those so maybe I missed something there. They even just recently downgraded my former favorite dollar machine that paid 800 for bet 1. It is now 250 for bet one. I haven’t checked any of the machines that are 5 dollar bets and up, so maybe it is some of those. I took a walk through the high limit areas recently and found many many 8/5 Job machines. Since they recently bumped up my achievement award level to 190, there is no way I will hit that in a session to get 100 in free play. That would require running nearly 100,000 bucks through the machines in a session just to get a hundred bucks in free play. Even on triple status point days, it is too steep.

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TheDirector wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:54 pm
Olds, I do enjoy reading your posts but I can tell you that what you are stating to our dear fellow readers is 100% incorrect. There are multiple machines with games higher than this payout returning momentum dollars and I've been playing them for years. If you doubt the veracity of my statement, just ask Advantage Player. We go way back and he will attest that I have thoroughly catalogued each and every machine at MS.
Hello Director, I have not been to MS in apx. 5 to 6 years since I was shown the door! as u know . Trying to get back in . How have u been ??

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At least you can enjoy Foxwoods down the road! Or just relax in AC.

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FAA wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:06 am
At least you can enjoy Foxwoods down the road! Or just relax in AC.
Yes , I recon so ! Hey DIRECTOR please see the above message !

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Post by olds442jetaway »

And if one or both if you guys can point me in the general direction of the advantage machines, I will find them. I have done that before checking every single one in the casino. It is easier to do in the middle of the night. That is when I play anyway. My Platinum status expires at Foxwoods the end of September. I have no play post covid opening there at all. I just got an email though that they reopened the Hampton Lounge. Maybe a quick trip there just to check that out. I am still Covid gun shy as to dining at the casinos with the Delta variant running wild. Lots of breakthrough cases now. Even the vaccinated Kiss Band including Gene Simmons has it now.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

Another quick question for AP and The Director. Did you guys used to play Pickem in the old Poker room at Mohegan?. ( used to have to go up the 3 marble steps ) to get in there? I played up there a lot, but the low ceiling and heavy smoke eventually drove me away, Then they made it a comedy club.

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Post by advantage playe »

olds442jetaway wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:20 pm
No spendable points at Mohegan Sun for machines over roughly 98.2 percent return. Only tier credits.
Matbe the director is referring to machines that are a little over 98.2% but not all the way to full pay job or higher . Hopefully the Director will respond , recall I have not been at moh sun in 6 years !

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