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It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 3:54 pm
by mickey crimm
I haven't been around videopokerforum for a few years. I've been doing some catching up through the old threads.  I see where Bob Dancer is still taking heat for being a "snake oil salesman" from some quarters.  I find it hilarious.  That's not the only side Bob gets it from.  He also gets it from longtime advanced AP's who blame him for "the ruination of advantage video poker."  They take a dim view of him wising up the whole world to advantage video poker play.It's lonely at the top ain't it, Bob? LOL! Whenever I see you taking heat I'm always reminded of Joan Crawford. When questioned about the bad press she was taking her response was "my dear boy, imagine they didn't write about me at all."


Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 4:47 pm
by Vman96
Good to see you around mickey. This is tringlomane from WoV. FYI, Bob is on an extended break here if you didn't know. And WoV is going downhill too, a lot of the "knowledgeable" posters have given up there or post much more sporadically, including myself. And KewlJ got nuked recently too...real shame.

And "loose lips sink ships" or something like that, right?   

Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:28 pm
by FAA
Just spell the name right! If I have a pure max coin session per his direction and hit a $4,000 RF, you know I am getting his software the next day. Saving up for this splurge.

Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:57 pm
by case
Hey Mickey, have you started writing that book yet? I am on the waiting list for a copy. Good to hear from you my friend.

Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:12 pm
by pokerpokerpoker
Thanks for stopping by MC. I have learned a heap about gambling from your posts on various boards over the years. Your stories are second to none.

Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 10:47 pm
by DaBurglar

I haven't been around videopokerforum for a few years. I've been doing some catching up through the old threads.  I see where Bob Dancer is still taking heat for being a "snake oil salesman" from some quarters.  I find it hilarious.  That's not the only side Bob gets it from.  He also gets it from longtime advanced AP's who blame him for "the ruination of advantage video poker."  They take a dim view of him wising up the whole world to advantage video poker play.It's lonely at the top ain't it, Bob? LOL! Whenever I see you taking heat I'm always reminded of Joan Crawford. When questioned about the bad press she was taking her response was "my dear boy, imagine they didn't write about me at all."

you don't think the fact that the entire casino....."INDUSTRY" (it kills me to apply that word to  Casinos)  has essentially saturated the most prolific and profitable markets has anything to do with this?    The fact that with the internet and all the instantaneous means and methods for sharing info, the general gambling populace is now more informed and armed for battle and better prepared than ever before has anything to do with anything?C'mon man.....it is a lot more complex, and a lot Bigger than one single solitary "dude" out there name "DANCER"........

Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:22 am
by Vman96

[QUOTE=mickey crimm]I haven't been around videopokerforum for a few years. I've been doing some catching up through the old threads.  I see where Bob Dancer is still taking heat for being a "snake oil salesman" from some quarters.  I find it hilarious.  That's not the only side Bob gets it from.  He also gets it from longtime advanced AP's who blame him for "the ruination of advantage video poker."  They take a dim view of him wising up the whole world to advantage video poker play.It's lonely at the top ain't it, Bob? LOL! Whenever I see you taking heat I'm always reminded of Joan Crawford. When questioned about the bad press she was taking her response was "my dear boy, imagine they didn't write about me at all."

you don't think the fact that the entire casino....."INDUSTRY" (it kills me to apply that word to  Casinos)  has essentially saturated the most prolific and profitable markets has anything to do with this?    The fact that with the internet and all the instantaneous means and methods for sharing info, the general gambling populace is now more informed and armed for battle and better prepared than ever before has anything to do with anything?C'mon man.....it is a lot more complex, and a lot Bigger than one single solitary "dude" out there name "DANCER"........[/QUOTE]

It is more complex than just Dancer, but educating others on "winning plays" generally makes less winning plays available. Here's an extreme example, if there was ONE gaffed VP machine that pays back 120% longterm, do you keep it to yourself or tell other people about it?

Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:01 am
by DaBurglar

It is more complex than just Dancer, but educating others on "winning plays" generally makes less winning plays available. Here's an extreme example, if there was ONE gaffed VP machine that pays back 120% longterm, do you keep it to yourself or tell other people about it?I agree, and to expand on this point and bring up something that Dancer himself let slip during one of his arrogant "tirades" or festivals of self aggrandizement, he essentially admitted there were a number of "INSIDE" secrets or "INSIDER" techniques that he himself utilizes that he DOES NOT share with others in either his classes or one on one......he did not expand or go any further in detail, but those of us with experience and exposure to the casino business, and those of us with intelligence. imagination, etc  can probably conjure up in a GENERAL sense what some of these "insider" techniques and play probably involve or look like.  

Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 10:38 am
by notes1
[QUOTE=Vman96] Good to see you around mickey. This is tringlomane from WoV. FYI, Bob is on an extended break here if you didn't know. And WoV is going downhill too, a lot of the "knowledgeable" posters have given up there or post much more sporadically, including myself. ][/QUOTE

Why would the 'knowledgeable' posters give up posting?

Re: It's Lonely At The Top

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 11:00 am
by Lionqueen
I'm not certain he has wised up that many. If you sit back and watch, most people play really stupid.