Winning Casinos vs. Losing Casinos

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FloridaPhil
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Re: Winning Casinos vs. Losing Casinos

Post by FloridaPhil »

tech58 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:18 am
FP we were at Hollywood about 2 weeks ago,pre-cruise, and the best we could find was 9-5 JOB.
Did we miss anything? I neglected to review your past posts which covered machines there.
VPFREE gave the ones we found as the best available. So we did a quick-hit-and-git.
The four of us came out $165 ahead with one quad each. No help from me, i only broke even,but as you well know, lot's of days that's a really good day.
Hollywood is better than Tampa. At this time, I believe 9/5 Jacks or Better is the best game available. At one time Hollywood had triple play 9/6 dollar Jacks. With free play and comps, it was a pretty decent game. A friend and his wife played it all the time. Their swings were huge. All the games were downgraded about two years ago. The best Deuces Wild game is 98.9%.

Florida casino gambling is dominated by the tribes. Currently, they have a near monopoly. The State was getting $200 million a year from them until recently. This all blew up last year. Multiple diverse forces are pulling in every direction. The tribes want Florida casinos all to themselves. Big investors want to build huge mega casinos and resorts in Florida. Disney doesn't want competition for the convention business. Religious groups are against any form of gambling. Florida sold 6.7 billion dollars worth of lottery tickets last year. Politicians are locked in an endless battle and nothing gets done. In the mean time, the tribes are netting billions while paying the State nothing.

I will say the tribes are doing a decent job at providing entertainment. Their casinos are first class. Florida is the perfect State for casinos with tons of retirees and a steady stream of vacationers.

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Post by onemoretry »

FloridaPhil wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:12 am
We discussed this in detail on the other forum. What my wife and I witnessed in AC was real. It happened numerous times on multiple machines.
The "discussion" consisted, I believe, of your reiterating what you honestly believe occurred, and numerous other posters indicating their inability to believe it really did.

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Post by OTABILL »

onemoretry wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:06 pm
FloridaPhil wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:12 am
We discussed this in detail on the other forum. What my wife and I witnessed in AC was real. It happened numerous times on multiple machines.
The "discussion" consisted, I believe, of your reiterating what you honestly believe occurred, and numerous other posters indicating their inability to believe it really did.
Seeing is believing. FP was there, the others weren't. There is no reason for FP to make this up. Look at Olds post regarding the Keno hand coming up. Those folks probably wouldn't believe it as well. I had an experience with a machine that didn't hold a card denying me a straight flush. The casino suit insisted I didn't hold the card even though going back to the deal hand, there was no way I wouldn't have held it. This happened a number of years ago at a local casino and I have not been back since. Sh_t happens sometimes seemingly as if it there was an RNG.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

I was asked, I answered. End of story.

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Post by tech58 »

Right on OTABILL especially the Sh_t happens part.
I had a lifetime occurrence in 2005 at Turtle creek here in mi.
At the right hand end machine at the bar in the high limit room i hit a $1 spade Royal holding 3 cards.
Feeling great, $4000 hand pay, $40 tip to payoff lady, time to play-off the hand before she leaves,hit the deal button. it still shows a spade Royal so she says hit it again,i tried but it was locked!! She looks at me and says "all 5 are HELD, HOLY SH_T that's not the SAME HAND".
To shorten a long story, since i am digressing AGAIN, two suits show up with two tech's and rolled out the hand by hand sequence on the screen. I had written down the cards and draw for the first Royal on my W2G and the screen confirmed that. The dealt Royal was different.They never questioned what had happened,the girl said over and over "i saw it", they were just as amazed as i was.
I have picture of the second Royal taken with a camera by one of the suit's, but nothing on the first.
Wish i had picture proof if this but i only have a flip phone for emergencies in my 4-Runner,which is why i do not post about my hand-pays.
Believe it or not, as you wish,but i can see it again any time i wish,the scene is permanently burned into the back of my brain,or whats left of it.

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Post by FAA »

A common programming quirk at my casino occurs with the 3RF/4F hand. Each time you go for RF in hearts, a heart always fills diamond/club/spade slot. Another heart appears in the discarded heart slot. When I relent and go for a plain flush, I always get it. This happens with every suit. Plenty of observations. I’m pretty fed up. I know what I see.

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Post by onemoretry »

I have a very difficult time accepting that anything "always" happens when making a VP draw.

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Post by Tedlark »

FAA wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:05 am
A common programming quirk at my casino occurs with the 3RF/4F hand. Each time you go for RF in hearts, a heart always fills diamond/club/spade slot. Another heart appears in the discarded heart slot. When I relent and go for a plain flush, I always get it. This happens with every suit. Plenty of observations. I’m pretty fed up. I know what I see.
And just HOW do you KNOW that this is a "common programming quirk?"

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Post by Gronbog »

So for RF3/F4, every time you go for RF3 in hearts you get a flush and every time you go for the F4 you also get a flush, and you're complaining?

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Post by Tedlark »

Tedlark wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:46 am
FAA wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:05 am
A common programming quirk at my casino occurs with the 3RF/4F hand. Each time you go for RF in hearts, a heart always fills diamond/club/spade slot. Another heart appears in the discarded heart slot. When I relent and go for a plain flush, I always get it. This happens with every suit. Plenty of observations. I’m pretty fed up. I know what I see.
And just HOW do you KNOW that this is a "common programming quirk?"
I would also like to add: FAA, your post is exactly the type of post which could give the uneducated player bad information.

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