Masks Now Required indoors at all CET and MGM Reports Properties Nationwide

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Masks Now Required indoors at all CET and MGM Reports Properties Nationwide

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Masks are now required with the exception of folks eating and drinking. No exception in the PR releases from both mention an exemption for smoking. Wonder how they will handle that since one cannot properly wear a mask and smoke at the same time. https://www.caesars.com/corporate/newsr ... properties

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At 15%, MGM Detroit will be a ghost town. The will be more people outside waiting in line then the will be inside.

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not able to comment on caesars or mgm casinos.

but, tampa hard rock has been open for about a month, and i have been there multiple times. masks are required for entry and most everyone, keeps them on. i wear a N95 mask and take plenty of other precautions.

as far as smoking goes, i will repeat. first, there is wide seperation between players, as more than one half of machines are closed down. second, if one goes during non busy hours, you avoid others even more. third, wearing the n95 mask is not conducive to easy breathing, with all the seperation, smelling smoke would be even less likely. as an ex smoker, i never smell the smoke. fourth, no proof, but i believe folks who smoke are doing it less in the casino. my guess is that it is just too big a pain in the a$$. i know i drink far less water than i used to, because it it cumbersome to pull down mask all the time.

you are obviously anti smoking, fine. but, you are also either unable, or unwillingly, or uncomfortable with going to a casino, in today's environment, or for your own personal reasons, also fine. but, you keep beating the subject and you don't even know what the situation is really like, with the new precautions. why don't you just make a drive to your local casino, very early or very late in the day. wear an n95 mask and just pop in a see what the situation is like. if your casinos are anything like the one i go to, you might be surprised. but, you won't know, unless you go. 15 minutes in and out, then you will know.

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back earlier this evening from an overnight at Mohegan sun and a few hours of play at Foxwods. Same protocols in place masks required all the time except eating and drinking. The casinos were extremely busy and for the most part people seem to be obeying the rules. They have outdoor smoking areas. I didn’t hear one person complaining about not being able to smoke. Plenty of people commented about how nice it is to be in a smokefree environment. I saw people I have never seen before at both casinos. Many were from Massachusetts that hasn’t reopened yet but quite a few said the only reason they are there is because of the non-smoking policy in the gaming areas. Was a very nice trip overall.

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notes1 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:03 am
not able to comment on caesars or mgm casinos.

but, tampa hard rock has been open for about a month, and i have been there multiple times. masks are required for entry and most everyone, keeps them on. i wear a N95 mask and take plenty of other precautions.

as far as smoking goes, i will repeat. first, there is wide seperation between players, as more than one half of machines are closed down. second, if one goes during non busy hours, you avoid others even more. third, wearing the n95 mask is not conducive to easy breathing, with all the seperation, smelling smoke would be even less likely. as an ex smoker, i never smell the smoke. fourth, no proof, but i believe folks who smoke are doing it less in the casino. my guess is that it is just too big a pain in the a$$. i know i drink far less water than i used to, because it it cumbersome to pull down mask all the time.

you are obviously anti smoking, fine. but, you are also either unable, or unwillingly, or uncomfortable with going to a casino, in today's environment, or for your own personal reasons, also fine. but, you keep beating the subject and you don't even know what the situation is really like, with the new precautions. why don't you just make a drive to your local casino, very early or very late in the day. wear an n95 mask and just pop in a see what the situation is like. if your casinos are anything like the one i go to, you might be surprised. but, you won't know, unless you go. 15 minutes in and out, then you will know.
Don't assume anything other than my being anti-smoking having lost a wife due to second-hand smoke. I did visit a local casino that has masks required, no smoking and take your temperature before entering. Went twice. First time, no issues whatsoever. Had a relaxing time. Decided to go back the following week. Second time, there were folks who were told by staff to keep their masks on. They would pull them down after floor personnel left. I spoke with a staff member who told me that was happening and was a problem. I did see several people with masks hanging down below their nose and mouth. I found and played a machine facing a wall in a corner so I could stay far away from those people. I wore a regular mask. Later, I momentarily smelt a little smoke, and decided to depart even though it quickly dissipated. Saw at least one person surreptitiously smoke as I was walking through the casino to leave. Went to a bathroom before I left, and smelt smoke there. Spent two hours each time. After a week, the smokers and others were getting more brazen. Regretted my decision to go the second time. Won't return while Covid-19 rates are skyrocketing. Not worth the risk.

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Guess we are both up late or up early OTB. I have the same feelings on the smoke. If smokers become more brazen and casinos get more lax with the rules, I’m gone. I conveyed this to the head of player development who was responsible for my upgrade this week from Ascend status to Soar status. My forner host who carries out his wishes was there as well. Neither said much back. I just wanted to make a point. The Mass casinos will be opening in a few weeks. All are non smoking. I parted the conversation by complementing Mohegan Sun on the job they have done so far and said please keep things going just as they are. Edited to add that I just ran into a friend of mine at Mohegan Sun. He is just a few years younger than me and lost his spouse who was a teacher to cancer caused by second hand smoke. He was at Mohegan as a trial because of the current non smoking policy. They know they lost his business a couple of years ago to MGM in Mass due to the smoke in Ct casinos. He plays several days a week Strictly slots. 90 percent 100 dollar machines and 10 percent 10 dollar machines. They didn’t say anything, but both looked at each other.

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you are correct, never assume anything. some folks might assume that if someone did something twice and it went well 50% of the time, they might not be so influenced by the 50% it went not so well.

if i want to avoid the crowds, the drunks, the young folks (who are more likely to pull their mask down), the women with smelly perfume or wanted to reduce my chances of being near smokers, i would adjust (and i do), the times when i go to play. my experience, at casinos that cater to an older crowd, is there are not a lot of folks there at 5-6am. one can play w/out any of those distractions for 3-4 hours.

as far as increase in covid cases, that is an entirely different discussion and certainly a reason to avoid crowds and casinos. my own opinion, and no science to back it up, but in florida, we were doing very well, until the bars and restaurants reopened. get people loaded up on booze, they loose their inhibitions, sit/stand close together and talk/spit directly at one another. that is why much of the increase in cases is coming from those under age 40.

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Olds, midnight is not late for a night owl like me (3 hour difference between you and me this time of year). Notes, Our casinos, particularly where I was at are small. Many are not spacious and don't have high ceilings. Ailes between machines are not wide so even with spacing on banks, with any kind of crowd, difficult to socially distant oneself. Agree with the problem with young people and bars. Same as in Florida. As I indicated above, I am sleeping , hopefully, in the early morning. Thus unless I change my sleep pattern, not practical for me to go to the casino at that time. BTW, just finished breakfast and still having my morning coffee :lol:

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small casino, low ceilings are not ideal to avoid any odors. adjusting one's sleep habits for one day not as big an obstacle. you have suffered a tragic loss, just trying to give you ideas how to get back to doing something you used to enjoy.

maybe you could do what olds does and get a room at casino, sleep when it is crowded and play when less busy. maybe, travel to a larger place, get a room and do the same schedule. or, just adjust sleep schedule for one day and go when empty.

if there is a will, there is a way. if not that important, don't go.

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notes1 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:20 pm
small casino, low ceilings are not ideal to avoid any odors. adjusting one's sleep habits for one day not as big an obstacle. you have suffered a tragic loss, just trying to give you ideas how to get back to doing something you used to enjoy.

maybe you could do what olds does and get a room at casino, sleep when it is crowded and play when less busy. maybe, travel to a larger place, get a room and do the same schedule. or, just adjust sleep schedule for one day and go when empty.

if there is a will, there is a way. if not that important, don't go.
I appreciate the concern and thoughtful ideas. Yes, I can change hours. I have thought about doing that for various reasons including our hot afternoons. Used to get up early to take my wife for Dr. visits, tests and treatments. The casino is closer than the clinics. About 30 minutes from my house. No hotel there. If I wanted to go to their second casino, where there is a hotel its 40 minutes away and I'd have to pay $199.00 + tax for a room. That facility is still closer than either of the medical facilities. However, I used to enjoy going with my wife. Can only recall going solo less than 1/2 dozen times during our years together and only when she couldn't go. Maybe played VP once or twice before we met. With many other options for things to do by myself, I may venture back after awhile.

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