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stevel96a1
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Looking for your system!

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So I hear on card shark you can play blackjack 60k hands and yield positive ev, he did not go into details how much won, I read on won site (wizard of odds) a powerful progressive positive system yielded big money again no details how many banks rolls won per hour,

I'm well aware 9/6 jacks can be ahead 1 or 3 bankrolls after a mil flat betting but that's not enough to live off and only occurs 5-10% of the time the other 95% will be losers,

So what are these systems?? Normally when I try a system it goes belly up right off the bat it's a bad system more than likely, the only system I played was my own 16k hands won 2600cash,
There's no way I could play on 16k hands and win over 1300$ let alone 2600 without the aid of luck or aka as RF on 99.17, if a magic geney said you either win this amount with this roll I'd definitely steer clear from flat betting

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stevel96a1 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 7:37 am
So what are these systems??
Fairy tales?

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onemoretry wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:38 am
stevel96a1 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 7:37 am
So what are these systems??
Fairy tales?
im starting to think that, although someone said on WOV (wizard of odds forum) Scarne had a system Mr hi roller would have a bankroll to cover 10 spins on a roulette wheel. a very agressive martin gale like the grand dady of martins, anywho the odds were 1 over 970 to come across 10 reds or 10 blacks in a row.
i looked into it and im not impressed a nasty fibby sequence can lose all in 1 siting of 5min yuck.
i did test it on various places some online live real time plays other shackle site and yea big bets do produce big winners and yea trying to locate that 9 or 10 in a row is hard to find but i didnt run it thru the ringer x10 over if it works and passes the goodluck/badluck test.

so there i went w/ the help of masque 1991 windows 3.1video poker simulations finally discovered my own 1/970 shot and yea its getting bank on the novemeber 31st app created 2015 android, testing it manually hand by hand and saw it performed well in a hi speed sim now doing it slowly and still holds up
3.5 bankrolls collected thus far, the Stanly Roberts and Wilsons claim if you can win x10 your roll then testing is finished (with extensive play ofcourse).

couple things i asked one i saw john video poker win 3 royal flushes with a bankroll constraint of 100$
i believe he began to play .5 jackpot > 2$ jackpot > i think 125$jackpot
i asked this on WoV site and reply was cant compute or something too many variables.
i still want to know the possibilities or probabilities of closing 3 out with 100$ freeplay assuming start off at .50 as John Did or claim he did.

aslo on another forum said a grand martin gale is better than the regular martin gale, since it will have a hi'er chance of doubling the roll before busto but still always that chance and another person suggest to go in with a 4 step marty win your dedicated roll and now you can compound your roll or anything goes with it, since theres so much ebb n flow of casino gambling it seems flat betting is a sure loser (assuming you dont have a good cash back system)

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i never really believe in systems, still dont, and not impressed with flat betting, but it is attractive if your gonna gamble atleast have fun with it, someone said on WOV site to double up your winnings like on a roulette wheel start with 50$ and let it ride to 800$ that way you only lose 1 unit of your entire bankroll
i thought that system was depressing AF especially if it reaches 400$ or 800 and you lose? dont think i can bare the sting and again houses edge will eat away at that system quicker than flat betting i think

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i think Olds had his style of play, negative 1-4 spread martin. Scarne did say if you did win quickly restart back to 1 unit base bet, Maybe Old is onto something?

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It still runs hot and cold. You can easily spiral out of control unless you start over after hitting something good or exceeding your original coin in or if you want to maximize risk when you exceed your highest coin in and Winning total, I always go back to the beginning and start over or cash out. I still bust sometimes but mostly it’s because I lose my discipline and get too aggressive for instance switching from quarters two dollar or even five dollar play

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see even Olds back up system play!!

i test the living hell out of the double up and i cant go on forever winning for some reason, it does double double anywhere from 5 units to 5k unit the issue i have with it dont know when its being nice or mean
so yea still gamble within a gamble and no guarantee to come out unscathed , it does swing widly though can turn boring old 9/6 into a triple double bonus game.

triple double bonus 9/6 still holds the highest record of win rate and loss rate

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It sounds like you want to take a modest starting stake and multiply it many times over. That is more or less how I play and usually pick the highest variance/best paytable I can find.

Maybe something like playing TDB quarters and if you hit for $500 or $1000, take it all and move up to dollars and hope for a $2000 or $4000 winner.

Of course, most if the time the quarters won't hit. Or even if they do, the dollars might not cooperate. But hey, you had a chance.

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pokerpokerpoker wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:06 am
It sounds like you want to take a modest starting stake and multiply it many times over. That is more or less how I play and usually pick the highest variance/best paytable I can find.

Maybe something like playing TDB quarters and if you hit for $500 or $1000, take it all and move up to dollars and hope for a $2000 or $4000 winner.

Of course, most if the time the quarters won't hit. Or even if they do, the dollars might not cooperate. But hey, you had a chance.
i found my system it wins and it breaks the bank, ran it through many different video poker software written authors some modern some old, will see how it stands against atlantic city this weekend, i notice more i double up the more i stray away from the actual game.

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stevel96a1 wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:37 am
pokerpokerpoker wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:06 am
It sounds like you want to take a modest starting stake and multiply it many times over. That is more or less how I play and usually pick the highest variance/best paytable I can find.

Maybe something like playing TDB quarters and if you hit for $500 or $1000, take it all and move up to dollars and hope for a $2000 or $4000 winner.

Of course, most if the time the quarters won't hit. Or even if they do, the dollars might not cooperate. But hey, you had a chance.
i found my system it wins and it breaks the bank, ran it through many different video poker software written authors some modern some old, will see how it stands against atlantic city this weekend, i notice more i double up the more i stray away from the actual game.
Then I expect you to soon be the richest person on this planet. 8-)

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