New documentary questions role of casinos in Las Vegas shooting

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phnxnmartini
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New documentary questions role of casinos in Las Vegas shooting

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An interesting new documentary in regards to the Mandalay Bay shooting: https://nypost.com/2020/07/02/new-docum ... rs-motive/

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Interesting article but I have some issues with it. First; Paddock also had planned to possibly commit his murderous act in Chicago and if he did, would people still be trying to tie a Nevada casino to him if he did do it in Chicago and not Nevada?

Secondly; I think that he would have had to be a very weak willed man if he wanted to take out his anger like this on a casino just because they allegedly screwed him on some comps. It's doubtful that many high roller gamblers, who face tremendous pressures when playing, are this weak willed and soft.

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Post by phnxnmartini »

Yeah, who knows the real truth! Interesting theory though, of Paddock losing his shirt, being angry with the reduced comps and wanting to harm MGM resorts. We may never know the real story.

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Post by AngelCanada »

After watching from afar I am convinced this was planned well in advance by Paddock due to the sheer details and tactics he used, not to mention the huge stockpile of guns the guy somehow was able to bring into his Hotel room, which in itself is almost too strange to believe. How does anyone accumulate such an arsenal of such deadly guns? He had enough weaponry to equip a large size platoon, and this is one guy. Thank God he was not able to use the majority of it, even though the death and destruction was still massive.

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Actually, in a large casino hotel, so many people come and go from the rooms, that bringing in new luggage constantly is not very obvious. Once I check in, I put up the do not disturb, don't want anyone touching my stuff, so they wouldn't know what I have in the room. I can understand that issue, although having purchased that much ammo might have been a red flag.
It is amazing to me that we still don't really have an explanation. The many videos of him coming and going from the hotel are pretty amazing. I try to behave myself in elevators now....kidding.

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Post by AngelCanada »

Well since this guy did what he did the policy and practice of major hotels in North America has changed and now they do pay attention to people carrying large amounts of luggage and frequent extended absences from the property coming and going in your vehicle. Between the hotels and the parking garages there are lots of cameras and now most security teams in large hotels are taking it upon themselves to notice such things. Plus your do not disturb sign on your door will no longer keep the hotel staff out of your room indefnitely, as my trips to large hotels in various cities since this happened attest; I think the policy is the same in Las vegas hotels, at least once each day hotel staff make well being checks on every room regardless of a do not disturb sign, and they now notice and pay attention to whatvever they see in each room. A part of me wonders of course, if a maid had somehow gone into paddock's room what would have happened, either she would have been taken captive and killed right there if he caught her, or if he happened to be out on one of his many runs bringing back more supplies and ammo, would the maid have had the wherewithal and guts to report what she saw, remembering this was before the deed was done and before people's radar was up?

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Around 2010, South Point had a comic book convention. Rather than buy a booth for $700, I decided to get a suite comped and use it to invite people up to shop in comfort. It was by invitation only, and I provided refreshments and some snacks. The problem was transporting 50 boxes of comics, each of which weighs about forty pounds.
The day before I checked in, I did a dry run and was told I'd have no problems getting bellmen to bring the boxes up. The day of, I arrived and the bell desk told me there was no way they were unloading a van and transporting it upstairs. After much discussion, two of the guys agreed to do it after their shift ended, for $300. I was thinking this wasn't working so well, until my friend and fellow dealer told me it had cost him $200 to get people to unload his stock in the convention area.
The guys who loaded me in had no idea what was really in the boxes, as they were all taped shut.
I could have been bringing 2000 pounds of explosives in, as far as they knew.
I sold about 15 boxes worth of stuff over the three days, and it cost me $100 to load up the van.
I thought it worked out well overall, but the next year the show moved to the Convention Center so I didn't get a chance to do it again.

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Post by AngelCanada »

Do you think your comic conventions will ever be the same going forward?

Vegas' convention business has taken a massive hit from Covid in the short term obviously, but also long term is looking awful too as many trade organizations and industries are seriously examining and assessing the real need and real benefits of having these yearly huge conventions in the future. Many will be scaled down. Like so many other examples, business people are finding they can accomplish all that they need by simply meeting Online, with reduced costs and risks. I'm serious, Covid19 has transformed the economy and it does not look good in either the short term or long term, and the vaccine, if and when it arrives, is not going to fix it.

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I try not to be too pessimistic about the future, hoping history can repeat itself and when the virus is truly controlled that things will mostly return to pre-virus norms. The 1920s was quite the time, right up until 1929.
Comic conventions are different than most trade shows as the attendees pay their own way for the most part. There isn't the networking that is so important at trade shows.
I certainly won't be going to any comic shows in the immediate future but this thing will pass eventually.
I do expect a lot of business's to fail, but that will create opportunities for new people. I think many industries will be disrupted and permanently changed. The flexible busness's will adapt and some young bucks will take advantage of the chaos.
A month ago, I had a 13 year old dog with incredible energy that hadn't lost a step. Today that dog has a life expectancy that can be measured in weeks. Life is full of tragedy and twists of fate.
We adapt and we overcome. It's what we do.

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Very true BR adapting is the key, along with government staying out of the way of the free enterprise system.
Sorry to hear about your dogs prognosis. Been thru 5 of those life cycles in my day and it is never easy.
Dogs just want to please you and at the end it is almost like they know your sad and they are right.

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