Four to a royal question

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Eduardo
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Re: Four to a royal question

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Eduardo, we all called out the card before the draw in front of 5 people every time.
 I don't think you actually did 500 draws, but okay. Did you shuffle after each one? If not, people could have been calling cards that had no chance of being turned over.  [quote] being led down the path with their eyes firmly closed shut and are too lazy to do their own analysis[/quote] So your official analysis, based on your efforts, is that royal flushes might never actually happen, not only with machines but with a perfectly fair deck of cards being turned over by hand? I'm liking this theory.




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Belligerent responses from the ivy league crowd that couldnt get good looking girlfriends.I'm sure it is much more fun for the girlfriends to be with people who sit around calling for cards that never come.  I have an idea, since you are so unlucky as to be wrong much more frequently than expected, instead of saying "Ace of spades," when you want it, say, "Not the Ace of Spades."  I guess by your logic you would then get the identified card MORE than one time in 47 and fool the cosmos.  For your experiment to be correct, at least one of the other cards must be appearing more than one time in 47!  Unless, your friends and you have been too often calling for a card that was originally among the 5 dealt cards (or maybe you haven't been playing with a full deck; if the deuce of hearts is missing and you call for it often, that could skew your numbers).  Sidenote:  Being in agreement with the current state of science is hardly belligerent...but then again if I am hampered by understanding math too much, maybe I have no idea how to define "belligerent."   ...everyone...are too lazy to do their
own analysis. So because the oh so perfect math doesnt really pan out
in issues like this, better to sidestep it all in favor of ignorance.Hey, I admit it.  I don't have any friends that I would even think of asking to sit around and call out cards 100 times, let alone 1000.  Although I presume that they like to spend their time with other activities, I also admit that I have never asked them, so who knows?  Interesting premise though:  Math doesn't work.  So let's do some analysis.  But, wait, if math doesn't work, what tool does one use to do the analysis?  Drama class or home economics?  You are aware that you need math to do a statistical test of significance to see if actual results are too far away from expected, don't you?  Or is this where you are advertising that ignorance is better?  Are you really claiming that the people who understand and use mathematics are more ignorant than those who ignore it?  OK, good luck with that.  And the questions are rhetorical.

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Let's make this more scientific. I just shuffled a deck of cards and removed 4. The 5th card I've placed on my desk face-down and I won't turn it over until someone comes back and guesses what it is. Anyone can participate.  Let me know your guess and we will continue with the experiment. If multiple people guess before I get back then I will repeat that many times.

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the joker

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Wow, forgot to remove BOTH jokers. Thanks! It was actually the 2 of spades, but we better start over so the data is good.  I have shuffled, removed 4 cards and placed the 5th face down on the desk.  EDIT: I got strawberry jelly on the card. It was the 5 of hearts but I'm starting over. I cleaned the card, shuffled, took 4 cards off and put the 5th down again in a clean part of the desk. Another guess from someone, please.



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Post by shadowman »

6 of hearts

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Post by shadowman »

... or maybe you haven't been playing with a full deck


 
I think you nailed it.

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6 of hearts

 You're not going to believe this. I spilled coffee all over the desk and I had to knock the cards out of the way before it got out of control. I don't know what the card was. I'm going to be more careful from now on. Let's get this started right. I have shuffled the cards, taken 4 off the top, and placed one face down on my desk. Someone guess a card, but do not guess the 5 of spades, 2 of diamonds or jack of clubs right now because those are drying on the side table.

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Since this topic was about a one card draw to a RF. This is from ACH Casino Resort Atlantic city 12/30/2011.

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Post by shadowman »

King of diamonds.
 
BTW, don't you have to specify the 4 cards removed so we don't call them?

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