Bounce Back Cash maximizing?

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zolas
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Re: Bounce Back Cash maximizing?

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Thanks for the advice.  I enjoy my career, no interest in leaving.  A profitable hobby would be more my interest.

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I would define reasonably worth the time as around  a 1.25% advatage on .25 games, a 1%+ advantage with $1 games, and  a .75% on $5 games.
 
I don't expect to ever be Bob Dancer, but I am willing to work hard at the game and working the casino to be a part time pro..... is that still possible?
 It's rare that I can find a 0.75% or higher advantage on $5 or higher games. Yesterday I got 2x points in a swipe at South Point and played $1 Ten Play 9/6 DDB Quick Quads (99.65% + 0.60% for 2x points + very little for the mailers = 100.25% on a highly volatile game.) I can average about $30K an hour on these machines so this has an EV of $75 per hour. This was by far my best play of the day so I jumped on it. I only had time to play $110K coin-in because I taught Double Bonus at Sam's Town earlier in the day and had other responsibilities as well. I held my losses to $10K for the day. Somebody on the same bank of machines won more than that. I'm not complaining or saying "oh poor me." I'm saying the game is volatile and swings like this aren't rare at all. If you have the bankroll and knowledge and the fortitude to deal with the swings, yes it's possible to make a living at video poker. It's considerably easier for locals to do this than out-of-towners. When Backsider says to not believe half of what you read on this forum, he's right --- so long as you include all of his posts in the half you're ignoring.  There are some knowledgeable posters here. He's not one of them --- but he compensates for that by being negative, opinionated, and in all of the discussions. Bob

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Post by backsider »

Ha-ha-he-he I'm not the one out there giving $10,000 of the money I make from working and selling bunches of things, to a casino that has paid me to create others like me.

Argue if you wish Bob, but stay on the level youre comfortable with. Please stop picking on the "little people".

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Post by zolas »

Thanks again for the info bob.  If my math is correct, that's 3000 hands an hour, wow that is impressive speed.  By the time I'm ready I was hoping for something north of 700, and that will take some work to be perfect at that speed.
 
Sounds like a bit less positive expectation that I thought, but doable.
 
Zolas

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Post by Quad Deuces »

He mentioned $1 10-Play so it's $50 per "game" or 600 per hour which is pretty speedy for multiline.


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Post by backsider »

Its also impossible. Ive played a lot of threeplay and fiveplay, Im pretty darn fast on them and trust me, it would be miraculous for anyone to hit the deal button on fiveplay 600 times in an hour which is ten times every minute, let alone a tenplay version of ddb, which takes longer per hand and where there are numerous ways for the machine to lock up on taxables.

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Post by Quad Deuces »

I don't know about that.  If the NSU game I play was FPDW I can see going from about 500 to 600 games per hour as long as the machine is fast.Since Bob mentioned he got a multiplier for a swipe instead of a general 2X day it's not out-of-the-question he'd have another machine to switch to while waiting for a hand pay.  And we could talk about tipping on handpays again since now you are citing a valid reason for doing so.


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it would be miraculous for anyone to hit the deal button on fiveplay 600 times in an hour which is ten times every minute.
 I have no idea what kind of machines you play on.  I do know that most of my play is five line (at either Seneca Niagara or Casino Rama), and I easily average about 650 deals per hour. I do not consider that pace to be miraculous at all.

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Post by shadowman »

[QUOTE=backsider]it would be miraculous for anyone to hit the deal button on fiveplay 600 times in an hour which is ten times every minute.
 
I have no idea what kind of machines you play on.  I do know that most of my play is five line (at either Seneca Niagara or Casino Rama), and I easily average about 650 deals per hour.
 
I do not consider that pace to be miraculous at all.[/QUOTE]
 


Good point. When I played a lot of 3-play I averaged around 700-800 hands/hour. That was before some of the newer faster machines came out. The one week I got in some FPDW 5-play I could play just as fast.
 
As long as another machine was available when hand-pay lock-ups occurred it should be possible to play faster than 600 hands/hour.

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Post by damule »

There are plenty of fast machines out there. If I choose "TURBO" speed on a 3-5-10 play Supertimes pay game, I can play 700-800 hands per hour easily. This is especially true when the multipliers don't come out very frequently .


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