Bob Dancer on Losing

[billryan]

I didn't call anyone a loser. I referenced the fact that their lifetime video poker play is losing.
If you inferred I think anyone who can't make a profit in VP is somehow a loser in life, that's on you.

Some new guy made a thread asking if holding two to a Royal is the way to play and not one of you people corrected him.
What is the payout on JOB if you hold every two to a Royal? If he listens to you folks, he is doomed to failure, and will end up another disgruntled former player. Great job.

[FloridaPhil]

I'm not on this forum to train people, sell them anything or promote myself as anything but a strictly recreational video poker player who plays only for the love of the game.  If a guy says he likes going for a royal at all cost, I try to understand his feelings and not criticize him for having them.  Video poker is not brain surgery, it's gambling.  If you believe the games are truly random and I do, then you must conclude that no strategy will be correct 100% of the time.  On any given day a chimpanzee might do better than an expert. Put enough of those days together and that chimpanzee might write a book.  The funny thing is, I would buy it....  

[billryan]

He asked if it was the correct way to play. I'd guess he thought when someone with a video poker master title answered that he'd get a correct answer to a pretty simple question.

[alpax]

He asked if it was the correct way to play. I'd guess he thought when someone with a video poker master title answered that he'd get a correct answer to a pretty simple question.

You get that title after 1000 posts, it is not by merit. I certainly do not deserve that title.

You are well on your way to becoming a VP Veteran (500 posts) by the end of the year.

In regards to the topic, Mr. Dancer understands the dynamics of video poker and its game variants (STP, Ultimate X, DDB, multi line, Jacks or Better), he sees the bigger picture in the long run so he is not bothered about what happens. His constant criticism about Today's Score on these forums should be self evident to his prerogative. Who knows more about VP than he does? Who is more serious about VP than he is? If his advice does not carry any weight, what does?

On a day's session of single line video poker which may be 6-10 hours, about 2/3 of the time they will walk out a loser and 1/3 of the time they will walk away a winner. Hence it is important for all players to have a source of income to grow their bankroll to pursue playing video poker.

Mr. Dancer does not want to win every battle, but wants to win the war against the house.

[billryan]

I'll be a Master before then. The thing is when someone comes here to ask a question, they don't realize you get titles based on posting, not knowledge or experience.

[FloridaPhil]

This debate could go on forever.  Playing the best games with the best strategy is a proven way to put yourself in a position to win long term.  What happens in the short term is mostly up to luck.  No strategy can give a 100% guarantee anyone will be a long term VP winner no matter how skilled or intelligent they are.   Bob Dancer possesses great skill, he only plays games where is has an advantage, he knows how to utilize the comp system to great advantage and he has had some great luck.  You can say he makes his luck from skill if you wish, but the RNG may have a different opinion.  I think what we need on this forum is more understanding.  Players are different and they play for different reasons.  When someone asks a question, instead of reading back something Bob Dancer wrote, we should qualify our answers in the context of the person's goals.  When Bob Dancer makes a statement or answers a question, it's always
from the perspective of a professional.  Players read these statements
with none of the skill, opportunities, knowledge or bankroll that he has
and think they are the right answers for every situation.  After all, he's the expert.   In many cases this causes
them to lose more money than if they had not listened to him in the first
place.  I'm not saying Bob Dancer is wrong, I'm saying his personal methodologies are not necessarily right for everyone in the video poker universe. Some players think playing by the math is better, some want to play longer with the same money, some like going for a jackpot more than grinding it out, some don't play that much and just want to take a shot and walk away.  It's obvious there is no universal strategy that meets all of these goals at the same time. There are many ways to "win" at this game.  It all depends upon what you think is "winning".

[Bobbi]

I always wonder why I don't see Dancer in the lead on any of the contests.. And I never see his name on the challenges - so - Is he here only to drum up business? I would think his business would improve if we saw him as a winner.

[DAAnMAAn]

Winning and Losing...Losing and Winning...there is never one without the other. In the meantime, there are positive and negative fluctuations and variances. If one has a problem with one or the other, your in the wrong hobby/profession.

[billryan]

I always wonder why I don't see Dancer in the lead on any of the contests.. And I never see his name on the challenges - so - Is he here only to drum up business? I would think his business would improve if we saw him as a winner.

He hasn't posted here in months. He left because he couldn't deal with the nonsense being posted here.
Before he left, he suggested a couple of loser leaves town challenges that the administration shot down. I wonder if they regret doing so now.

[notes1]

who needs dancer, we have you. same pleasant demeanor.