Martingale strategy question

[billryan]

Where would you EVER find a VP machine that has stakes starting at a nickel and going up to over 5,000 dollars a hand. It does not exist, so your theory is garbage.

Are you saying if such a machine existed, his theory wouldn't be garbage?

[VPvideo]

18 consecutive hands in video poker of "WIN 0".

I see. Thank you for letting me know. I guess it IS possible to lose that many times in a row then.

[VPvideo]

Where would you EVER find a VP machine that has stakes starting at a nickel and going up to over 5,000 dollars a hand. It does not exist, so your theory is garbage.

As I said, you could start with nickel machines at a casino and then go online for the higher stakes bets. Honestly though, I don't know if there are online sites that allow VP bets that high or not. If there were, then the strategy could be attempted.

[asteroid]

If you attempt this strategy you might as well use full pay Deuces and Joker wild as the game of choice. There is a greater than 50% chance of a non-losing hand for each deal-draw. As I said, you could start with nickel machines at a casino and then go online for the higher stakes bets. Honestly though, I don't know if there are online sites that allow VP bets that high or not. If there were, then the strategy could be attempted.

[VPvideo]

If you attempt this strategy you might as well use full pay Deuces and Joker wild as the game of choice. There is a greater than 50% chance of a non-losing hand for each deal-draw.


That's good to know. Thanks!

[Vman96]

[QUOTE=case] Where would you EVER find a VP machine that has stakes starting at a nickel and going up to over 5,000 dollars a hand. It does not exist, so your theory is garbage.

Are you saying if such a machine existed, his theory wouldn't be garbage?[/QUOTE]

It wouldn't be garbage if his machine let him bet infinite dollars.

Damn I wish I had infinite dollars...

[billryan]

[QUOTE=billryan] [QUOTE=case] Where would you EVER find a VP machine that has stakes starting at a nickel and going up to over 5,000 dollars a hand. It does not exist, so your theory is garbage.

Are you saying if such a machine existed, his theory wouldn't be garbage?[/QUOTE]

It wouldn't be garbage if his machine let him bet infinite dollars.

Damn I wish I had infinite dollars...

[/QUOTE]

I have counted to Infinity.
Twice.

[olds442jetaway]

I have lost the following consecutive hands job 36, deuces wild 40, joker kings 46, and 3 stints on various games without a Royal in over 600k hands. Martingale could work most times if you cut your losses. It works much better on craps on the pass line with a smaller bet on any craps. If you cut it off after 5 or 6 losses in a row which you will get at some point in the day, most days you can do pretty well. Before I retired, I played that way just to make gas money. Some days in craps, it just goes back and forth all day with never more than 4 or 5 losses in a row. On those days, you can really clean up.

[BobDancer]

Betting systems do not work. Period.If the game is negative, there is no system of bets that will turn it into positive EV. There is a mathematical proof of this, but the simplest way of looking at it is looking at every negative-EV bet as a step downhill money-wise. There is no series of downhill steps that will end uphill from where you started.Martingale systems have as much mathematical sense as CS --- which is to say none at all. Since CS has been relegated to the "Recreational Forum," my vote is for this thread to me moved there too.

[Webman]

Moderator note: While you make some valid points, FloridaPhil, you did agree not to post in this particular forum. You are welcome to discuss Martingale in other areas.