Thoughts For Beginners

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=alpax] I think Phil is referring to your winning hits.[/quote]Of course.  I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing any.  Billy, put up or shut up.  

[billryan]

[quote=alpax] I think Phil is referring to your winning hits.Of course.  I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing any.  Billy, put up or shut up.  

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Or what? You'll make up more ****?

[alpax]

If Phil really really truly wants to help recreational players out whom are viewing this thread, he would most likely need to establish credibility as the utmost priority.


Olds, Billy is obviously a shill.  He's only concerned about shooting anyone down who doesn't advocate funneling your bank account into the casino coffers.   If he knew anything about real VP he would come up with something useful instead of having tantrums and taking this forum into the gutter with him. 


How is calling Billy who is advocating G.A. all this time to those that willing to play bad games even with extensive knowledge of video poker a shill? Trying to resolve gambling problems does not mean giving more money to the casino.

[b74]

I'm just curious here, why would a 5$ single line DW hand be played when for the same wager a $1 max coin DW hand could be played? No dog in the fight just curious.

[alpax]

I'm just curious here, why would a 5$ single line DW hand be played when for the same wager a $1 max coin DW hand could be played? No dog in the fight just curious.

The source of the jackpot came from this thread, it is on page 2 where Phil offers the reasoning. I personally asked the same question myself back in 2014, wow does time fly...

I would stick with $1 max bet rather than single coining $5 if the pay schedule is the same. I enjoyed the story on the front page. Truthfully it was during a time when we all thought Phil was a normal person, someone who was not obsessed with Mr. Dancer

Nice Jackpot Makes Lady Mad

[FloridaPhil]

Excellent questions.  There are two reasons for playing with the CS strategy.  One is to allow you to play more hands with the same bankroll and the other is it allow you to play at a higher denomination than you normally could with the same bankroll. Playing single coin and moving to max coins after every four coin win works at any denomination.  Whether or not this is better than flat betting is debatable, but it is a lot more exciting at least as far as I am concerned.Does this strategy work?  Here is an example.  In this photo I was in Tampa taking a $20 single coin pot shot on a $5 machine.   I had a small run up, then hit a quad deuce for $1,000.  I immediately hit the max coin button and hit a wild royal for $625.00.  I cashed out at $1,735.00 added it to my bankroll and went back to single coin.  $1,725 from a single $20 bill with no taxes.  I would call that an excellent result.  You could say I would have done better if I had played max coins.  No way I would bet $25 a hand unless it was with the casino's money.  By the way,  Dancer once accused me of taking pictures of other peoples jackpots and claiming them as my own.  Who do you know who bets single coin $5 machines other than me?  If Dancer's strategy works for you, use it.  If not, maybe you should try something else.What's really interesting is I hit this bank of three machines for nearly $4K over a month's time playing single coin.  Shortly there after they disabled the coin buttons and now the minimum bet is $25 a hand.  If short coin didn't pay better, why did they do this?  Curious...The reason I say Bill is a shill is because he keeps shooting negative comments at me when all I am trying to do is save money for players playing negative games.  As you know, Bob Dancer tried the same thing.  I have given math to prove I'm right.  I have posted photos. I have used logic.  Nothing works, he just keeps pounding away.  Why would he do this?  He's attended one of Dancer's classes and all of a sudden he thinks he's the Albert Einstein of video poker?  If he's a real player, which I seriously doubt, Heaven help him if he has to learn the hard way like I did.

[billryan]

If Phil really really truly wants to help recreational players out whom are viewing this thread, he would most likely need to establish credibility as the utmost priority.

[QUOTE=FloridaPhil]
Olds, Billy is obviously a shill.  He's only concerned about shooting anyone down who doesn't advocate funneling your bank account into the casino coffers.   If he knew anything about real VP he would come up with something useful instead of having tantrums and taking this forum into the gutter with him. 


How is calling Billy who is advocating G.A. all this time to those that willing to play bad games even with extensive knowledge of video poker a shill? Trying to resolve gambling problems does not mean giving more money to the casino.[/QUOTE]

Why bring fact into this. Phil advocates players play any game, no matter how bad it is, but I am the shill for the casino. When I'm not a shill for Bob Dancer, or raping puppies or whatever nonsense Phil is accusing me of at any particular moment.

[billryan]

I'm just curious here, why would a 5$ single line DW hand be played when for the same wager a $1 max coin DW hand could be played? No dog in the fight just curious.

Because then he would just be one of thousands of players pounding away on machines. This way he is Phil from Florida, inventor of CS, a system that casino execs lose sleep over.

[FloridaPhil]

One thing we all agree on, seeking out games with the best odds and playing with computer perfect strategy will get you as close to the game's long term ER as you are going to get.  Whether you do or don't change your bet as you play is totally up to you. Single coin dollars is a better game than max coin quarters in Tampa.  That is also the case in Cherokee NC and most of the casinos in Mississippi.  Next week we will play max coins in Hollywood because the odds are better, no other reason.If you want to sit on a negative video poker game imagining you are Bob Dancer or Billy Ryan and flat bet until your bankroll is gone, be my guest.  There is no guarantee CS will work any better for you either.  In the above article, Bob Dancer corrected my 80% skill 20% luck calculation and said it was more like 90%-10%.  I expect he would as he believes his skill is superior.  I have no argument with that.  I wish to point out the world's expert on video poker states luck is worth 10% of this game.  If the luck factor is 10%, where will that leave your results? 

[alpax]

Single coin dollars will not be better than max coin half dollars in Tampa.

Anyone who is dead serious about video poker will be idiotic to bet low denominations at Cherokee.

ukaserex (one of your biggest supporters) says quarters is good at IP, why go anywhere else? Vman has better luck at Tunica as well.

Billy and Mr. Dancer are professionals and play differently than you or I do, at least their bankrolls much larger since they have faith in their ability to put the odds in their favor. The 10% luck part is probably stuff a player cannot control such as being able to find a seat to play when they want to play.