Reason for playing multi-draw games?

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Re: Reason for playing multi-draw games?

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I never realized the variance made that much of a difference. Read the Bizarro post if you have time. I’ve been mostly a single line player all my life and avoided multi because of the inferior pay tables. I’ve been a net loser every one of the last 40 plus years. With a bit of luck based on recent results, that may change.

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at higher demons most folks can't afford the money and/or time. Variance and covariance make lower denom multiline games make sense. Variance makes as big of difference as RTP when you don't have enough deals and hands to weather the storm of not hitting Royals very often.

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tech58 wrote:
Mon Dec 15, 2025 4:53 pm
I understand variance and don't know the variance of multi-line at the pay tables available to me. FP JOB is around 19 I believe.
But at what point the worse pay-tables for multi more than off-set the variance advantage is still not clear to me.
If someone finds 9/6 JOB on multi I fully understand the deal.
Where I live that option does not exist.
wizard of odds has an article on his website that quauntifies the covariance between one deal and multiple hands of common vp games.

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Guest755076 wrote:
Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:41 pm
at higher demons most folks can't afford the money and/or time.
Video poker these days is challenging enough without having to worry about demons, much less higher demons. To me multi-line is a demon and multi-line multiplier games are "higher demons"

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Post by olds442jetaway »

I have found that on multi line games I get to play a lot longer with the same bankroll, hoping for a great dealt hand. What I don’t like is the reduced pay tables for multi line games Also on an ice cold session, for some reason, I get wiped out earlier on Multi line games. That’s because of how I increase my bets when losing. It’s a Catch 22 sometimes. Long term, my biggest jackpots have been on single line games, but my overall losses also higher on them as well. Running out of time and bankroll causes that.

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More chances and choices

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Quiver wrote:
Tue Jan 20, 2026 9:58 am
More chances and choices
What do you mean by that? Could you elaborate?

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Guest755076 wrote:
Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:51 pm
tech58 wrote:
Mon Dec 15, 2025 4:53 pm
I understand variance and don't know the variance of multi-line at the pay tables available to me. FP JOB is around 19 I believe.
But at what point the worse pay-tables for multi more than off-set the variance advantage is still not clear to me.
If someone finds 9/6 JOB on multi I fully understand the deal.
Where I live that option does not exist.
wizard of odds has an article on his website that quauntifies the covariance between one deal and multiple hands of common vp games.
This thread is starting to bear some fruit'
Still puzzling over how multi players get by the atrocious pay tables.
Does reducing the variance on a bad game, by firing multiple bullets, somehow help the bad math?
After 15 years slight burnout on 9/6 JOB has me looking at this.
Not a negative thought in my mind for multi's, just trying to gain some knowledge.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

One thing I have noticed though Tech is if you continue to have terrible deals and few if any cards to hold, this gets amplified fast and multiline can wipe you out in a hurry. I think I read the key is to keep the bet amount about the same as single line and why one needs to play lower denominations on multi. Boy have I learned the hard way with 25-50 buck bets on multi line on quarter or dollar multi line games with only once in a blue moon a huge jackpot coming in.

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Post by binbin »

The EV is the same, and the strategy is the same, with some exemptions like "Ultimate X." But, while the RTP is the same for each hand, the volatility increases slightly - the more hands, the more the increase.

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