Another Bad Play Pays Off!

[onemoretry]

As to the hot and cold streaks when playing DW, I know just what you mean, it's programed into the software and  no matter what you do when playing max coins there is no way to trick oneself around the program.
 Oh! Oh! - here we go again!

[edog743]

We have been down this road a lot onemoretry have'nt we?

[shadowman]

As to the hot and cold streaks when playing DW, I know just what you mean, it's programed into the software and  no matter what you do when playing max coins there is no way to trick oneself around the program. That is probably the number one reason that your one coin play makes some sense, by waiting out the cold cycle and hopefully catching the hot streak on max coins at the right time.
 


All one needs to do is some of their own randomness testing to see that programming is unneeded to see streaks. Throw some dice, flip a coin, play cards but make sure you track the results. You will see the same streaks you claim are programmed.
 
Once you truly understand randomness you won't have to believe in all the myths you hear about gambling. It actually makes it a lot easy to play when you understand what is going on.

[sam434343]

Mdmick67 and all the other players that have methods that work for you use them, All the math experts can give you or me the correct answer and i agree with them (to some degree LOL!) on the math. But here we go find the exact amout of winners that make over $50,000 year income on video poker and do it year after year after year(dont count all the players that go in and play onces and never come back tho they are winners)  I bet there are less than 500 people who can do it okay maybe 1000 people now take those numbers  and times it 1000 x $50,000=50,000,000million wow the casino wants to give there money to us now if there was 10,000 winners at this level  10,000xs50000=$500,000,000 half a billion dollars no way, LOL! Keep in mind there are over 100,000,000 million people who are old enuff to play video poker in th U.S. of america now if we all did excatly what math experts say play best machines and 100% correct how long do think these machine would be in the casinos, the experts would have no jobs, so they need us to give are money to casinos they do have some simpathy towards us but if we all did100% correct  they all be out business. I talk with a professor he doesn,t have a PHD in mathmatics he said to talk with other at the Unversity because he could be wrong  he did say a computer chip, or RNG chip cannot be 100% random it has math involved only if you program human nature into chip would it be 100% random then he said it would have to be human chip to do that and it is not human. Well school has just open at University/college but down the road i will contact Professor(PHD in math at college)to support or change what this professor said. Sam

[shadowman]

All VP machines have pseudo-RNGs. The differences between them and a truly random number generator are inconsequential for the application of Video Poker.

[BillyJoe]

All VP machines have pseudo-RINGs. The differences between them and a truly random number generator are inconsequential for the application of Video Poker.
I can think in nanoseconds, but can't hit keys fast enough..

[Tedlark]

billyjoe don't you really mean pseudo-nanoseconds?

[FloridaPhil]

MDMICK67, I agree with most of what you said in your post except that video poker machines are not programmed to do anything except produce random numbers.  The small up and down streaks that occur are consistent with the randomness of the RNG.  Whether you believe this or not is irrelevant, they exist and they seem to be more pronounced in wild card games.My point was...  The idea that anyone can be a winner by playing only 100% plus machines, play computer perfectly for days on end and have a bankroll large enough to ride out any losing streak is ridiculous.  Bob Dancer won a million dollars in a year doing this, but he says himself that a lot of luck was involved.   I bought into that whole premise in the beginning and it cost me a bunch of money.  I finally woke up and now I'm much better financially for it.Playing Video Poker, unless you are that one in a million person in a one in a million scenario is a long term financial loser.  No matter what you think or say, you are probably not and won't ever be that guy.On the other hand, it's a great challenge and very entertaining.  My system allows me to play longer, conserve my bankroll and gives me a decent chance at a $1,000 jackpot on any given day.   My strategy is based on picking the right game, playing as close to perfect  as I am able, strictly limiting my session budget and  taking my white ticket wins home with me.  If you take any of those things away from it, you will probably not have the same results.

[mdmick67]

[QUOTE=FloridaPhil] MDMICK67, I agree with most of what you said in your post except that video poker machines are not programmed to do anything except produce random numbers.  The small up and down streaks that occur are consistent with the randomness of the RNG.  Whether you believe this or not is irrelevant, they exist and they seem to be more pronounced in wild card games.


I knew that I would open up a can of worms with my statement about programing in cold streaks into the software lol. I do however agree that yes the up and down streaks occur with the randomness of the RNG. But it does make one wonder when you are sitting there playing and have worked up say 100 or more credits after a nice hot streak and then the RNG starts dealing all non paying hands wiping out all that you are ahead and more. Try anything that you want to turn things around, like stop your play for a few mins., throw away a possible hand, keep just one card or anything you can think of. Once the down streak starts there is no stopping it other then to play thru it or cash out.


 
Still waiting to hear from the math people chime in on your 1 coin play strategy?
 
I agree with the statement you made, Quote: The idea that anyone can be a winner by playing only 100% plus machines, play computer perfectly for days on end and have a bankroll large enough to ride out any losing streak is ridiculous... Unless someone plays with some kind of a system that works for them, there is know way to beat the VP machines other then pure luck on any given day.
 
 

[BillyJoe]

[QUOTE=FloridaPhil] I knew that I would open up a can of worms with my statement about programing in cold streaks into the software lol. I do however agree that yes the up and down streaks occur with the randomness of the RNG. But it does make one wonder when you are sitting there playing and have worked up say 100 or more credits after a nice hot streak and then the RNG starts dealing all non paying hands wiping out all that you are ahead and more. Try anything that you want to turn things around, like stop your play for a few mins., throw away a possible hand, keep just one card or anything you can think of. Once the down streak starts there is no stopping it other then to play thru it or cash out.

The trouble with streaks, hot and cold, is that you do not know you are in one until it is over.