With which game should I start?

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cddenver
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Re: With which game should I start?

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Yep, me too.  But when you are playing on pay tables like that, it really sticks in your craw!  At least it does mine.  I'd rather be reading a Louis L'Amour western and that's not knocking L'Amour at all!

 
An evening with L'Amour isn't bad at all.  Now, a tough choice to make would be a 1,700 point dry spell on a machine with a bad paytable to begin with, or having some fingernails pulled out.  That one I'd have to sit down and think over.

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Post by MikeA »

I told my wife as we were on our way back home:AmeriStar in Kansas City, Missouri, has machines having not much better pay tables than those in Oklahoma at the casino we were at.  However, AmeriStar does have one thing that OK casino doesn't have:  A HOTEL.  At least there, when I'm bored with the machines, I can go to my room, plug in the computer and play the simulator!  Or sleep.  Or read or watch TV.

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I told my wife as we were on our way back home:

AmeriStar in Kansas City, Missouri, has machines having not much better pay tables than those in Oklahoma at the casino we were at.  However, AmeriStar does have one thing that OK casino doesn't have:  A HOTEL.  At least there, when I'm bored with the machines, I can go to my room, plug in the computer and play the simulator!  Or sleep.  Or read or watch TV.

 
The BH/CC casinos are only a 40 minute drive from where I live, so when things go south during a session I can just go home.  How familiar are you with the points system at the KC Ameristar?  I'm assuming it's the same as the Ameristar here.  The formula they use here for converting points-to-cash is the most complicated one I've ever seen, and one of the least rewarding ones to boot.

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Post by MikeA »


 
The BH/CC casinos are only a 40 minute drive from where I live, so when things go south during a session I can just go home.  How familiar are you with the points system at the KC Ameristar?  I'm assuming it's the same as the Ameristar here.  The formula they use here for converting points-to-cash is the most complicated one I've ever seen, and one of the least rewarding ones to boot.I've never really paid a lot of attention to it.  It isn't my play at AmeriStar that scores us free rooms.  My wife is a "black card" holder there because of her slot play.  Because of the pay tables, I play only the lowest denomination I can find there (nickels) and I play blackjack which isn't that bad a game there (about .64% in casino's favor).  Neither of those games is going to accumulate enough Player's Club points to make any difference.

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Post by vidpokerlooser »

The best games to play are any games on this site...but NO games in a casino. If you really enjoy throwing your money away, just go to the men's room and flush it down the toilet...it'll save you a lot of time and frustration.

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Post by shadowman »

There is a lot of losing when playing VP. So much of the payback is tied up in a few hands. However, that doesn't mean one can't win if they are patient, search out good pay tables and play accurately.
 
If you have been doing that and still losing then sadly you have been one of the unluckly 5-10% that the statistics predict will lose. Of course, that doesn't mean you will continue in that group. If you haven't been doing the hard work then I am not surprised by your comments.

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Post by MikeA »

It can be a grind but judicious selection of games with attention to the pay tables and the tenacity to gain adeptness with correct playing strategy will eventually pay off for you.But your comment does underscore my reason for switching my "main game" from Double Double Bonus to a less volatile Double Bonus.  With DDB, you can go for hundreds of hands (maybe a thousand or more!) without catching one of the quads that springs you back to life.  DB is better with the better flush payback even though you don't have the shot at the monster quad (Aces with a kicker) or the 2/3/4 with kicker for 800 that DDB offers. But to say that you are just as well off flushing your cash down a toilet is only true if you are not selective about the game you play and do not spend the time learning the correct strategy.  Sort of like, "You get what you pay for."

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