IS THIS TRUE?

[BillyJoe]

   Obviously, a company like IGT produces games that go to different markets/casinos in different states and jurisdictions....the machines would be modified according to their customers needs and desires, but I would imagine the differences are slight because to change the variables we are talking about, such as the payback % on a slot or the number of non-paying (dud) hands in Video poker, would simply require a USER inputting a simple number or variable.....not even close to "programming" or tampering, etc.
From what I have been told, the capability that you mention DOES NOT exist in IGT machines. The options included in VP machines include payback tables, denominations and games. There is no 'dud hand' setting for the casino to use.

[Tedlark]

  Expanding further on what billyjoe just wrote; I believe the only system in the machine that is tied into denominations is the payback table. Information does not go to the RNG telling it what particular denomination a machine is currently playing at.

[Vman96]

  Expanding further on what billyjoe just wrote; I believe the only system in the machine that is tied into denominations is the payback table. Information does not go to the RNG telling it what particular denomination a machine is currently playing at.

To be legal in any state, yes. But given my lifetime history, I have to have a lot of faith casinos are behaving legally. I have done a lot better at lower denominations lifetime. I haven't even seen a nickel Royal yet...

[olds442jetaway]

I don't think we will ever know the " final answer " even if we phone a friend. I do know however, I won't become a millionaire from playing vp.

[DaBurglar]

  From what I have been told, the capability that you mention DOES NOT exist in IGT machines. The options included in VP machines include payback tables, denominations and games. There is no 'dud hand' setting for the casino to use. well its not called a "dud hand setting", thats a term we have coined here......I do not know the exact option or variable setting name, but we know it exists......we all agree SLOT machines are regularly set and re-set in terms of the payback % right?    RIGHT?Well, how does the casino actually do that?  clearly they have a simple process where they go in and tell the machine to payback 91%, or 85% or whatever....right?   well, what exactly is happening here...?  answer:  the RNG results are filtered through the game's programming and the end result is somehow weighted in the casino's favor so that the payback over time works out to whatever they desire......does anyone NOT agree with that?It works in similar fashion in those video poker games in places like AC where the casinos are allowed to payback less than the paytable.   OBVIOUSLY, this is NOT the case in Nevada which I have been saying since the beginning.Stiil, no one has offered a alternative to why everyone's results are way down over the last 5-7 years, why video poker in AC is ridiculously bad in terms of payback and non paying hands....what's the explanation?   we know it is not simply lower paytables.....

[Tedlark]

  DaBurglar if we(?) know that a dud setting exists, why would we continue to play video poker? Again, you are trying to tie in slot machines to video poker in a clear attempt to bolster your position.    Again, provide us with concrete, absolute proof that there is skullduggery going on by the casinos.    The "dud hand setting" was not a term that "we" have coined here. I personally use a different term when I don't get whatever card I need to make a hand and it isn't "dud hand." I refer to it as getting DaBurglarized.    As another noble poster wrote something about the earth being flat until absolute, concrete (water in this case), proof was made that the earth in fact was spherical; I again ask that you provide the group with aosolute, concrete proof that casinos are screwing with video poker machines.   You have offered nothing more than your own theory and supposition to support your arguement. I can equate you to being nothing more than a disgruntled video poker player.     Edited to add: DaBurglar if you do show us absolute, concrete proof I will give serious consideration to getting off your back. Until that day comes, and it may never come, I will continue to press you for proof. Giddyup...

[chattycattty]

Tedlark or Daburglar, any word or date set for that round of golf with Billyjoe?

[Tedlark]

  I've got my clubs (golf) packed in their travel case waiting to go.

[BillyJoe]

Tedlark or Daburglar, any word or date set for that round of golf with Billyjoe?
Well, it ain't gonna happen in AC any longer. I read where CET recently sold the Atlantic City CC, so there goes my comp rounds there as a 7Star.

[DaBurglar]

  DaBurglar if we(?) know that a dud setting exists, why would we continue to play video poker? Again, you are trying to tie in slot machines to video poker in a clear attempt to bolster your position.    Again, provide us with concrete, absolute proof that there is skullduggery going on by the casinos.    The "dud hand setting" was not a term that "we" have coined here. I personally use a different term when I don't get whatever card I need to make a hand and it isn't "dud hand." I refer to it as getting DaBurglarized.    As another noble poster wrote something about the earth being flat until absolute, concrete (water in this case), proof was made that the earth in fact was spherical; I again ask that you provide the group with aosolute, concrete proof that casinos are screwing with video poker machines.   You have offered nothing more than your own theory and supposition to support your arguement. I can equate you to being nothing more than a disgruntled video poker player.     Edited to add: DaBurglar if you do show us absolute, concrete proof I will give serious consideration to getting off your back. Until that day comes, and it may never come, I will continue to press you for proof. Giddyup...

I dont have a "position", everything I write stems from MY EXPERIENCE and RESULTS. and I draw my own OPINIONS and conclusions from there....wtf is your problem with that?    So, having clearly stated that I am writing my OPINIONs based on my own experience play results, that means all you have left to do is call me a liar........one thing is very clear, as soon as several people in this thread (started by someone else, by the way, sharing something that seems to support what my experiences have revealed) starting coming out and pointing out that what I have been saying and sharing might be right afterall, that put tedlark into hyperdrive and "on my back" with a zeal heretofore not seen.....interesting (and disturbing) to say the least.....Get off my back?  so you ADMIT all this time your intent has been to be ON my back?   nothing new here, that was already obvious, just nice to finally hear you say it....Once again, YOU ignore all the questions and points in my posts, and distort and pick& choose what you want just so you can have a beef.....cuz that's all you are about at this point, having a beef with me.....man your life must be really dull and shallow.   If anyone wants to go back and look at the ENTIRE history of my posts, they will see clearly my points and experiences (and even some stats, but I am not bothering to do that anymore cuz no one else does) , and the conclusions that I personally have drawn, which is what I am sharing here.    I am not trying to convert anyone, but I am disgruntled to the exttent that playing in AC, my results are NOT what video poker is supposed to be under previous assumptions about how the game works.....SOMETHING(s) have changed....that's what I have been saying.   And in the case of AC, with their gaming regs being what they are, maybe things were always the same and nothing changed in AC, except maybe how the casinos practice business with video poker.I stated before many times, and I still believe, that Nevada video poker is exactly what we expect and assume.   I know from my experience in AC, that video poker is NOT like Nevada.  That's it.....I do not care at all what you think and believe tedlark, and if you were to actually start making some original posts of your own, starting your own threads, saying 2+2 equals 7, I would leave you alone and not invest one crummy second of my time trying to tell you everything that is wrong with you.....YOu always respond to me and anything I write, no matter what it is......and for the record, You have NOT proven that I am NOT right either about AC.   You've done nothing of the sort, you have not even played there recently.....I, on the other hand, have played there for almost 5 years now and have well over 1.5 million hands logged on mostly 99% games like 8/5 BP and 9/6 job.    I have spoken at length with people and especially the gaming enforcement office (LOCATED on TENNESSEE AVENUE just off the boardwalk, use the side entrance and ring the bell....their office hours vary, but typically they are open 9am thru 4pm with a 45 minute lunch break around 12:15....sometimes they are closed on Wednesdays due to staffing cuts, as much of their duties and personnel have been merged with other state agencies), and I have shared all that with everyone here, but because you insist on merely derailing the topic with your intense dislike of me personally, no one remembers any of that (or can find it thanks to your ridiculous insipid posts).The fact is you contribute nothing, all you do is remain "on my back"......why is that?    Someone else PLEASE answer that besides tedlark.   Pleaseeeeee......AND FOR THE 58th time folks, I have also always maintained that I am still open, and hoping, that someone somewhere will come along and tell me that AC is in fact just like nevada and that I am simply the unluckiest player ever.....but with PROOF to this extent.    I have always maintained that I want to believe AC is fair like Nevada, which is why I still play a little each time I go back for Poker, hoping that this time things will even out and be "normal".   For 17-18 years I played a lot in Nevada and as I said many times before, I had very good, NORMAL results, even showing a profit several years in a row (but not since 2007-2008).....it is the VAST, stark, inexplicable, HUGE gap in results between AC and Nevada/Vegas that is the heart of this matter, not sitting here debating stupid derailments over "dud" buttons and what IGT does or does not do to every machine they send to every region.    C'mon, the rest of you guys are NOT as myopic and meanspirited as tedlark.   Edited to add:   Can anyone (again, other than TEDLARK) tell me who appointed Tedlark the PROTECTOR of this forum's integrity and Champion of the TRUTH?   ANyone, Anyone?  Bueller, Bueller?More importantly folks, does anyone here feel they NEED tedlark's help in determining what is what, right from wrong, BS from the truth or from what is simply one person's opinion and unique perspective?     He has made it abundantly clear that his....."disagrees"....with me.  Okay fine, that's his viewpoint.....but what is the purpose or reasoning for him to feel it necessary to be "ON MY BACK" after almost every single post I make here (regardless of the topic or what I say)????     DO you guys feel that is needed?    what exactly is he protecting you from????