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[Tedlark]

Just how does a framed "Some College" look hanging on a wall? We're not the ones who opened themselves up to riddicule by mentioning degree's in: accounting, business law and common sense failing to remember that a facebook or myspace page mentioned that I had, some college.
 
Yes it has taken a long time and quite a bit of hard work to attain the skill level I have attained playing piano but I have never been afraid of hard work. This has also taught me correct form and discipline, I have also learned this in Kenpo and Aikido. I do play the classical pieces but I also know the Notre Dame Fight Song by memory, a tribute to my dad. I also enjoy playing ragtime but sorry no chopsticks for me.
 
I have never been to a wine tasting competition(?) so I cannot comment on what is played at one of those events.
 
Shortcuts seem to be kind of a pattern with you. I have spent too much time stroking the ball back in to your court and I'm going to stop for now. Please remember that I'm also not the one who posted several days ago three letters, C-YA. I guess it was a tad bit early to notch you into a stick.

[oej719]

[QUOTE=oej719]A recent photo of the WIZARD of artt. Complete with tats.
 
I hadn't noticed the tats.     I just told faygo that I'll be calling him oej, jr., for that one.
 
With that honker he must have to use a straw with his beverages.  Is that a nickel in his right hand?  And notice the slight metallic sheen to his hat.[/QUOTE]

I think that is a nickel cd. He is dancing so he just found a hot whispering machine that gave him 4 aces with kicker for $100 using a new version of an old version of a modified version of super duper artt.
Now it is miller time for him until he is down to a quarter and he can do it all again.
He is not called the Wizard for nothing ya know.

[cddenver]

I think that is a nickel cd. He is dancing so he just found a hot whispering machine that gave him 4 aces with kicker for $100 using a new version of an old version of a modified version of super duper artt.

 
That's bad enough with ARTT, if it happened during the Great Nevada Experiment that would be a 1-coin nickel BP hit for $4. 

[shadowman]

[QUOTE=oej719]I think that is a nickel cd. He is dancing so he just found a hot whispering machine that gave him 4 aces with kicker for $100 using a new version of an old version of a modified version of super duper artt.

 
That's bad enough with ARTT, if it happened during the Great Nevada Experiment that would be a 1-coin nickel BP hit for $4.  [/QUOTE]

 
CD, from what I hear the nickels were too steep. Now, it's single coin pennies. Please quit exagerating.

[cddenver]

CD, from what I hear the nickels were too steep. Now, it's single coin pennies. Please quit exagerating.
 
SM, you're supposed to say:  "Get your facts straight!".  I hadn't read about the pennies.  You're not funning me on that one, are you?    Must have had a rough month on nickels to drop right past 2-cent play.   The perils of playing only on cash comps.  I bet the pays on that penny BP must be really - oh, they don't matter. 
 
The downhill slide continues.  
 
So, on 1-coin, 1-cent play that $4 Aces w/kicker on BP 1-coin nickels works out to, um, um...oh, the guy behind the curtain can figure that one out for us.  While he's at it he can figure a 1-coin, 1-cent RF.  I'd do it myself, but my copy of Excel has already turned in for the night (shhh!).
 
EDITED:  Okay, my copy of Excel finally woke up and we're having our first cup of coffee.  That 1-coin penny BP Aces w/kicker is 80 cents, RF is $2.50.

[rolanddude]

Hello everyone (U 2 oej),I have been away for a few days with some complications from side effects from that last treatment.  The 12th one really kicked my ass apparently!  My PET Scan is this Wednesday the 4th...let's hope it reveals that all the cancer is completely gone!!!Yesterday and today I took the time to complete 4 more sessions of 5 Play Multi-Line Strategy bringing the total sessions to 10.  There are some really peculiar things to point out about the stats on the spreadsheet below.As you can see,  I played 11,424 hands @ 25 credits per hand through 10 sessions.  I kept stats on the three denominations that are potentially cycled through @ 2000 credits per denomination in the strategy.  The stats are divided up so that one column shows the results as if an Advantage Player were playing all credits at the same denomination but stopping if they reach enough credits to equal $100. (My session win goal)  The "Without Stop" column reflects the results for the same Advantage Player playing hand for hand the same number of hands as required for me to either reach my goal (or higher) or to sustain a session loss.  The notes at the far right of the spreadsheet depict session details such as if I changed denominations, if a certain denomination reached a win, or key hand that ended session.Now as to everyone's apparent argument in opposition to this strategy...New2vp points out that with a session win goal of $100 and a bankroll of $2600 your loss which happens around 15.5% of the time will more than likely wipe out your winnings.  He also says that winning sessions are less than $200,  62% of the time,   and the average session win is $349.  He says you will win 84.5% of the time.....OK then....Here is what, by his own calculations, we can derive from this...When we sit down and implement this strategy we will win around $349 over 80% of the time...On a negative expectation game no less...No other strategy will proclaim those lofty #'s of win percentage...I've got a 15% chance of losing no more than but mostly less than $2,600!!  I like my quick strike chances here...But here are some calculations he overlooks.....When you play 11,424 hands@ 25 credits per hand...you have played 285,600 credits through.  Now on a game like 9/6 DDB you should lose, based on it's 98.98% payback, a total of 2913 credits.  Well, my total payback percentage for the 10 sessions as a whole was 97.34% (not atypical for a normal 9/6 DDB)  and the total credits lost were 7780.  BUT...by playing the strategy I come out ahead $2,665.50!!!  Every other way of playing (goals or not) were losers...BIG LOSERS compared to my sizeable win....How does this happen?  That is a $10,445.50 spread from the $1 player that played every hand I played.  Why?   It's called leverage...I increase (after losing 2000 credits) my denomination by a factor of 5X and 4X respectivly.  AND IT WORKS!!!  Now keep in mind that my results for 10 sessions are close to his percentages as far as win/loss per session (or the amounts won or lost with this strategy per session), and # of sessions that were won or lost...they are as a statistician would say "in line with the numbers".  I would also point out that even with one big losing session throughout the 10 sessions I would still be in the BLACK if on the next session I would have a total loss.   BTW, if you doubt the big hands that I show as being key to the big session wins...I took pictures of the screen.  I can email them to anyone that doubts....Here are my sessions/totals...












Five-Play Video Poker Session Results





















Using
Multi-Line Play Strategy (.05, .25, $1)2000cr/level DDB 9/6 Session Goal $100
- Bankroll $2,600/session for Carter results



Expert
AP Nickels Sessions Goal $100 - Bankroll $300 / session (2000 credits X 3)






Expert
AP Quarters Session Goal $100 - Bankroll $1,500 / session (2000 credits X
3)"STOP PLAY AFTER +$100 ACHIEVED"




Expert
AP Dollars Session Goal  $100 -
Bankroll $6,000 / session (2000 credits X 3) "STOP PLAY AFTER +$100
ACHIEVED"












 Without Stop 
 Without Stop 



Session 
Hands 
Cash In
Cash Out
Carter
 "Expert" AP .05 
 "Expert" AP .25 
 "Expert" AP $ 1 
 "Expert" AP .25 
 "Expert" AP $ 1 
NOTES


1
1887
 $  3,200.00
 $   3,744.25
 $    544.25
 $   (206.50)
 $ (1,032.50)
 $ (4,130.00)
 $  (1,032.50)
 $ (4,130.00)
Progression-.05,.25,.05,.25,$1(Quad Aces)


2
1678
 $  2,600.00
 $   2,843.25
 $    243.25
 $    (10.00)
 $     202.50
 $     245.00
 $     (552.50)
 $ (2,210.00)
Prog.-.05,.25,$1: Expert .25,$1Stopped LV1


3
1418
 $  2,600.00
 $   4,805.75
 $
2,205.75
 $     87.75
 $     141.25
 $     275.00
 $      (61.25)
 $    (245.00)
.05,.25,$1 (QuadA/kick)(QuadA's)--Exp .25,$1 stopped LV1)


4
186
 $     100.00
 $      208.00
 $     108.00
 $   108.00
 $     100.75
 $     190.00
 $       540.00
 $   2,160.00
Played only nickels…All ways reached goal in Level 1


5
1182
 $     100.00
 $      203.00
 $     103.00
 $   103.00
 $     102.50
 $     225.00
 $       515.00
 $   2,060.00
Played only nickels…All ways reached goal in Level 1


6
1062
 $     700.00
 $      807.00
 $     107.00
 $    (26.00)
 $    (130.00)
 $     225.00
 $     (130.00)
 $    (520.00)
Prog. .05, .25, .05 Expert $1 stopped LV1


7
1223
 $     700.00
 $      832.00
 $     132.00
 $     27.00
 $     108.75
 $     435.00
 $       135.00
 $      540.00
Prog. .05, .25, .05 Expert .25, $1 stopped LV1


8
1426
 $  2,600.00
 $        81.75
 $ (2,518.25)
 $   (279.25)
 $ (1,396.25)
 $     190.00
 $  (1,396.25)
 $ (5,585.00)
Progression- .05, .25, $1


9
271
 $     100.00
 $      298.75
 $     198.75
 $   198.75
 $     123.75
 $     115.00
 $       493.75
 $   1,975.00
 All ways reached goal
Level 1-hit Quad Aces+ Aces/kicker


10
1091
 $  2,600.00
 $   4,141.75
 $  1,541.75
 $    (91.25)
 $    (456.25)
 $ (1,825.00)
 $     (456.25)
 $ (1,825.00)
.05, .25, $1--dealt Quad deuces got 2 kickers=$3200 hit




 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




11424
 $15,300.00
 $ 17,965.50
 $ 2,665.50
 $   
(88.50)
 $ (2,235.50)
 $(4,055.00)
 $ 
(1,945.00)
 $(7,780.00)


You guys have a good night!JoePS...Tedlark, I don't take shortcuts when it comes to my music and business...you can check out my webpage now (www.myspace.com/cooldaddyjoe) and see pics of my last trip to Vegas where I played piano and entertained the folks at Harrah's in their piano bar with my Elton John set.  It lasted for about 45 minutes and I played and sang 9 songs...all from memory (I don't read music anyway...to confining) to a crowd that gathered both inside the bar and standing against the railing on the casino side.  They must have enjoyed it...I received over $90 in tips...  BTW, I know over 500 songs that I play from memory even some classical ones.

[EDC1977]

I've never played by chord or triad but can play some with that classic two fingers method. so what do you hope to acomplish with this? That random things happen with an RNG given the negative expectation of a game minus the players points, CB or comp value? A complete novice (no prior knowledge of the game) can walk up to a VP machine, put in a Jackson and hit an RF if the RNG spits out that combination at that given moment in time, provided it's in that neighborhood of its cycle of # of hands played by percentages. Machines have been known to give RF's back-to-back. i just don't understand why you keep coming back (after you left already) and posting this stuff that your best friend and hero put in your lid. As I previously posted, send it to Dancer and see how fast he deletes it. you've resigned to stand back to wait-and-see. Stay in the shadows and keep waiting and seeing. Sure there might be a couple of curious onlookers to that system. Just stop arguing with things that have been already mathematically calculated out and formulated so even a dummy like me can practice it and hopefully perfect it so i can maximize returns and minimize losses and not have to resort to special plays. I couldn't imagine what might have become of my ER if I held the solo ace instead of J,Q all the time. you play your way. i'll play mine. i don't go around posting all over what this system will do or what it holds over others. Too many have taken that up for themselves. Can't imagine why people aren't running in droves to learn this "walk around the block" system over perfect play can you? Why is that? You've apparently proven that you can win on negative expectation games and yet no one is bothering to take advantage of free lessons. Why not? You only need to PM OEJ719 to get the details why. Perhaps you are the chosen one because he sure speaks through you in your posts! Enough already. I'm content to be where I'm at. Why haven't you learned to leave it alone?

[cddenver]

Well, my total payback percentage for the 10 sessions as a whole was 97.34% (not atypical for a normal 9/6 DDB) and the total credits lost were 7780.

  
Based on the total play in credits and credits lost that you reported, that should be 97.28%, but I suppose that could just be considered quibbling.
  

I increase (after losing 2000 credits) my denomination by a factor of 5X and 4X respectivly.  AND IT WORKS!!!

  
I still don't understand this fascination with playing sessions on random PC simulations when you feel that real casino machines currently don't operate randomly.
  

 .05, .25, $1--dealt Quad deuces got 2 kickers=$3200 hit

  
Dealt quad ducks on $1 DDB 5-play with 2 kickers would be $2,800.  That must be a typo, right?  Ol' cddenver can work the math on this one; no need to wait for SM or New2vp - 3 kickers instead of 2 gives you $3,200. 
 

[shadowman]

CD, it's almost as if he was making them up as he went ... since we know the computer could never make that kind of math error.