How does RNG work in 3/5/10 play?

[advantage playe]

wildman -

The gaming machines in that particular casino are Class II VLT's. Play at your own risk.

Ted I don't know that much about class2 or 3 but thought there has to be a bingo game playing on the screen with poker hand or a bingo card somewhere on the machine so you know its a class 2.

I think from everything I can see they are class 3, but not 100% sure.

To test for a vlt play v low like one unit , when u get a winning hand dealt life trips or flush for eg. throw it away. if u get back an equal paying hand back over and over ita a class2 vlt. which means u r flat out being robbed !!

[Tedlark]

To test for a vlt play v low like one unit , when u get a winning hand dealt life trips or flush for eg. throw it away. if u get back an equal paying hand back over and over ita a class2 vlt. which means u r flat out being robbed !!

Post of the day.

[Tedlark]

wildman -

The gaming machines in that particular casino are Class II VLT's. Play at your own risk.

Ted I don't know that much about class2 or 3 but thought there has to be a bingo game playing on the screen with poker hand or a bingo card somewhere on the machine so you know its a class 2.

I think from everything I can see they are class 3, but not 100% sure.

wildman -

The picture of the sign that you posted told me that the machines are Class II and not Class III.

[tech58]

Nothing like that Occurs on our Class 3 machines. Looking at the machine pic's posted here is clear and final. Nothing in question here. Our casino is Not regulated by the state (evidence provided) our machines are Class 3 (evidence provided) Look at the evidence or go away. Clueless is as clueless does.

Done.

[dinghy]

Nothing like that Occurs on our Class 3 machines.

Vpfree2 is a good resource for this, imo. They could make a mistake, but generally they only list casinos that are presumed to deal fairly from the video poker deck.

The differences can be subtle. For example, Resorts World Catskills is listed because it's a regular, full-service casino. But you won't find Resorts World New York City, as it's a racino on the grounds of Aqueduct racetrack. The racino gaming machines are VLTs.

Steve Bourie did a video recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ank8zQF7d0A

The vp machines have warning placards:



Here's an example of how it goes. These pics are from just after the 4-minute mark. Dealt a straight:



He redraws and catches blanks, but the "match card" awards the 4 credits he would have collected had he held the cards:



At a tribal class 2 machine, you might see some indication of a bingo card, but lottery-based machines use a different mechanism.

[Jstark]

ALL casinos in Michigan, including Native American, are Class III. None are Class II.

[Tedlark]

tech58. You are mostly wrong. In the State of Michigan it depends on which Class of gaming is going on at an "Indian Casino" in the State of Michigan.


If Class III gaming is going on in "Indian Casinos," the State of Michigan DOES REGULATE these operations.

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TED this sign is on the wall at Soaring Eagle. The bottom of the sign tells all.

I am not going to get into what I see week after week month after month, many on this site just throw cold water on it. Not many play enough hands on a weekly basis to see or understand what I see.

Something is not right on a % payback in this casino.

[tech58]

ALL casinos in Michigan, including Native American, are Class III. None are Class II.

Thanks JS you have obviously been there. I have been in maybe 8-10 Indian casinos in Michigan and they are all Class III. Soaring Eagle and Saganing are not regulated by the State of Michigan. Not sure of others.

[Jstark]

ALL casinos in Michigan, including Native American, are Class III. None are Class II.

Thanks JS you have obviously been there. I have been in maybe 8-10 Indian casinos in Michigan and they are all Class III. Soaring Eagle and Saganing are not regulated by the State of Michigan. Not sure of others.

Only the 3 Detroit casinos are regulated by the State (Michigan Gaming Control Board).

[Tedlark]

Am I the only one who read the compacts?