accuracy

[xaxphaanes]

Hello i am curious if the bob dancer winners guides are accurate and if they are accurate how can this be proven or is it just a type of system? even the wizard of odds said that 2 different authors could come up with a different answer to a hand so how is that accurate?

[wlebear]

I noticed his "correct draws" are different than the "cottrrect draws" that slow up in the personal challenge games?

[misterlister]

I've found his guides to be accurate, although I don't find he himself to be when it comes to the things he expects his readers to believe about him.

[xaxphaanes]

So the strategy side of things are accurate but he exaggerates the big wins?(sounds like gamblers lol) and underestimates the losses? is what you mean? i just want to make sure before i set a side a large amount of time learning the strategies that they are correct and accurate or if there are more correct stratigies out there

[FloridaPhil]

I would like to jump in here and offer my 2 cents worth on this subject.  100% accuracy is important if you are betting big money and want to extract the last few 10ths of a percent from the game. If you are betting quarters or less, I don't believe they add much to the bottom line.  For example, In deuces wild keeping an Ace/10 without a deuce and without a win is not 100% correct in most non progressive situations.  The error costs about 2-5 cents depending upon the other cards in the hand.  If you factor in all the A/10s in a day, I doubt they would add up to much.  However, if you hit a Wild Royal it's 100-125 coins, a real royal is 4,000 coins and and even a flush pays something.  Unless you are a professional or will be playing for big stakes, I wouldn't get all that excited about perfect strategy.  100% strategy rarely has anything to do with winning jackpots.  What good odds and good strategy does is let you play longer with the same money.  It's fun to talk about and learn, but really not that profitable for low end players.  My suggestion would be to learn all you can, then make your play decisions based on your own personal situation.   Just my opinion... 

[alpax]

I purchased the Volume 4 of the Winners Guide for Airport Deuces Wild and NSU Deuces Wild. I was originally going to buy the Million Dollar Poker book from Bob Dancer but bought this instead. To me it seems to be accurate when playing with the VP Pocket trainer, but the information within the book is very valuable since it helps you think and approach the games the right way. Its worth the $16.50 + $7 shipping.

If I were to get into 9/7 Double Bonus, I would get another volume of the Winners Guides, but right now I am very content with Jacks or Better personally.

Speaking of time, these Winners Guide can help you get better in LESS time than learning it yourself. I am not paid to write this, I am going by personal recommendation.

[Minn. Fatz]

In my experience the accuracy of a VP strategy depends on the depth and accuracy of its penalty card and other exceptions. That being said, most "basic" (no listed exceptions) strategies are within a tenth of a percent or so of "perfect play." Mastery of a basic strategy, aiming for 99.5% accurate execution, would most likely give you better practical results than a less-perfect execution of a more complicated, more accurate strategy.As for the rest of it, personally I don't understand why anyone would exaggerate their gaming results or, in the absence of any evidence, accuse someone else of doing so. Hey, it's us against the house, remember?

[Vman96]

If I was selling books on this topic, I would definitely exaggerate my wins if I think it would help me sell more books. I assume that's what most people with Craps betting systems do.

[notes1]

lying or exaggerating one's results from anything, to enhance one's position or get someone to buy, what they are selling...can't happen. next thing someone will tell me is that i can't keep my doctor, keep my plan or i will not be saving $2500 a year in premiums.

[FAA]

Great comments. Not a disaster if you don't uphold the strict tenets of optimal strategy on every single hand. The difference is like a tenth of a percent, as Minn stated. It's not the Ten Commandments.