Bankroll Question

[elmoo168]

Hi,
 
If I had a bankroll of say $2000 and wanted to play Double Double Bonus Poker, would either of these scenarios allow you to potentially win more money?
 
1.  Play $5 in $1 machines for a longer time,
2.  Play $25 in $5 machines for a shorter time.
 
The problem with a $25 bet (assuming both machines are 9/6) is that you'll get issued the w-2 for any 4 of a kind you hit.  I was watching a guy play $100/hand on a DDBP 9/6 machine (20 x $5 coins) and he started talking to me and said his strategy was to hit the casino hard for a short time, and once in a while he'll hit for a big one and said his strategy has paid off so far.
 
Thanks for any insight into this!
 

[oej719]

There is just one man that claims he can do that and he uses SPECIAL PLAYS and can detect HOT and COLD machines but he ain't sharing his secrets. Nor can he show proof of his wins.
So unless this guy can show you hard proof I would advise not playing his amounts unless you don't mind loosing it all.
How can he hit the casino hard when he wants to for a short time?
Seems to me if he can them hard for a short time, put a few short times together and hit them hard for a long time.
So go ahead a play the 2k at $5 a pop and then next time go for the $25 a pop.
Let us know which way is better.

Thanks
111oej111

[chuck arl]

How bout' playing $2 or $5 triple or five play instead? Play whatever game you choose. A nice dealt, pat hand would do just as well. That's why v.p. players have a better landscape to play than slot players!---CWA---

[shadowman]

Interestingly, the latest Guaranteed Video Poker machines (GVP) give a quarter player 75 or 100 hands for $20. The consensus has been that the vast majority of people lose their $20 and never try these machines again. They are typically sitting empty.
 
Your option #2 give you 80 hands at $2000 (plus a few more iterations for winning hands). The cycle time for a quad is 425 hands. So, you are betting on being extremely lucky with this approach. Option #1 will generate a quad most of the time, but very often it will not be enough to make you a big winner.
 
One thing you didn't mention was your goal. We had a gentlemen post here a little while ago that he had lost 7 out of 8 sessions playing DDB (a little different approach). Are you perfectly happy losing $12K? Do you plan on doing this often or is this a one time shot?
 
 

[elmoo168]

My goal is to try to win just a little, but his comments got me thinking which way might be better.  If I'm in Vegas for a few days, I usually play $1-5 per bet to maximize the time I'm there to try to preserve my bankroll (or at least to make it last).  If I'm doing a day trip to Mohegan Sun/Foxwoods in CT for a few hours, then I might bet a little higher, $5/hand and once in a while $20 if I'm "feeling it".  So far I haven't seen much of a difference betting high or low, just the length of time my bankroll lasts, but $5/bet is a far cry from $100/bet!
 
According to everything I've read, all machines run on RNGs so isn't hot & cold machines a myth?  What are "Special Plays"?
 
Also, I have the program Bob Dancer Presents WinPoker, does anyone know if Video Poker For Winners is a newer version or the same program under a different name?
 
Thanks for all the info!
 

[oej719]

There are no special plays. That was just a claim someone made, along with hot and cold cycles.

[shadowman]

VPW and winpoker are different programs. VPW has added function but the primary functions haven't changed because they are based on math. They both provide for learning correct plays and analyzing paytables. VPW provides more games, strategies, etc. as does FVP and WVP.
There are no such things as hot and cold machines ... they would be illegal ... there are only hot and cold players, which is just another way of saying the machines are random.
It sounds like your experiences are typical. If your goal is to win a little, then over time the best approach is to play the best games as well as possible. Betting more will work for some, but for others it would be diastrous. The problem is you never know whether you'll be the lucky one ahead of time.

[scorpio2]

in ac i've seen a woman come along play a hundred dollar bill,a few 5 dollar plays.if they hit they cash out,and move on,also if they don't hit.is this a team approach,as i sit at a machine for hours like bob dancer does,playing many hands?which is best strategy i wonder?

[MikeA]

From what I conjecture, what you have seen could be accomplished team play if the machines are progressives and above the negative return total.  The "team" member might be playing only as long as the Royal hasn't been hit and once it has been, they find another progressive and repeat the process.Otherwise, I think machine hopping is going to give you no advantage over sitting at the same machine unless it makes you feel good to hop around.  That is not meant to be a joke.  One of the reasons you play is to gain enjoyment from the activity and if hopping machines helps accomplish that, then by all means do it.  Mathematically, it'll make no difference.

[pokeherguy]

Whats a "bankroll"?