Harrahs AC

[DaBurglar]

Have you ever been to this casino or do you just feel the need to defend every casino? In canada, do they report on companies that have screwed/mislead/cheated etc, the public. If I recall, the online poker scandal that robbed millions from trusting players, took place at an Indian facility, based in Canada.

EXCELLENT POINT  POST!       This is one can of worms I would love to discuss, since I myself (along with my brother) had direct first hand knowledge on these shenanigans, as well as others before during and after the infamous BLACK FRIDAY day of doom ......Notes1, since there are actually several specific scandals from the past can you narrow it down just a wee bit to specify which one you are talking about?This just reinforces my point that, for all the presumed SECURITY and integrity that most people choose to believe exists even in the most regulated segments and markets of casinos and gambling, there is always the possibility that it can erode or even disappear altogether simply because of one undeniable factor;    THE HUMAN FACTOR!    as long as people are involved, the chance of corruption or cheating or even simple incompetence exists.

[notes1]

I am not anti business or casinos. Whether it be private enterprise or government, there seems to be another scandal or violation every day. We must all be vigilant. Where money/power are involved, there will be crooks.

DB, you can check a variety of casino scandals online. Years ago, the 'near miss' feature was actually approved by Nevada gaming. If my memory is correct, the online poker scandal took place when an insider took advantage of a software weakness, that allowed him to see all the players cards, at a table. He took millions from trusting players and was only exposed when the players tracked his winning record.

I have no idea what takes place at any casino, but when one is in bankruptcy procedures, it just seems to make sense to keep a close eye on what they are doing.

[DaBurglar]

I am not anti business or casinos. Whether it be private enterprise or government, there seems to be another scandal or violation every day. We must all be vigilant. Where money/power are involved, there will be crooks.

DB, you can check a variety of casino scandals online. Years ago, the 'near miss' feature was actually approved by Nevada gaming. If my memory is correct, the online poker scandal took place when an insider took advantage of a software weakness, that allowed him to see all the players cards, at a table. He took millions from trusting players and was only exposed when the players tracked his winning record.

I have no idea what takes place at any casino, but when one is in bankruptcy procedures, it just seems to make sense to keep a close eye on what they are doing.well saidYes, I know of the one specific scandal you are talking about whereby some total scumbag was able to utilize his inside knowledge of the software workings (since he actually was at one point an employee of the company in Question, which I believe was ABSOLUTE BET????)    The reason I asked you to try and narrow it down, is due to the fact that ABSOLUTE BET also was one of the three companies taken down on Black friday for a slew of money laundering violations by the US GOVT.    Simultaneously as that was taking shape,  one of the other two companies, FULL TILT POKER was exposed for essentially being a giant PONZI scheme, whereby the so-called "Poker Pros" who founded and managed Full tilt (among them foremost was Chris Ferguson, the 2000 world champ, and the well known "PROFESSOR of POKER", Howard Lederere.)       Those two guys, as well as several others have essentially been blackballed, blacklisted, scarred, you name it by many other Poker Professionals who absolutely found their behavior inexcusable.The really sh*tty thing is, for all their shenanigans and corrupt behavior, Ferguson and Lederer got off very light, as some other third party wound up taking the worst of the CRIMINAL HEAT, and as far as anyone can tell, a huge pile of funds that no one could find or account for  PROBABLY are actually in the hands/bankrolls of people like Ferguson and Lederere, somewhere.     SCUMBAGS.....they played a angle and it seems like, all things considered it paid off for them.    But they are forever hated.....Getting back to the guy who was "peeking" at players hole cards, he was a total idiot in the way he used this advantage, as it was pointed out, had he been more discreet and not totally f-ng Greedy, he literally could have used this cheat INDEFINITELY.    What gave him away was what you alluded to, his results were so off the charts and improbable that people caught on.    I heard that he was in cahoots with one or two other big time poker players, one of whom was a well known Poker Pro who lives in las  vegas and is well known all over town in poker and gambling circles (well, he was until he got nailed....)  his name escapes me .....Your point is spot on though, there needs to be oversight that really truly works and is REAL, with real consequences and transparency.     That is why I honestly believe that Atlantic City has some shenanigans going on, simply because the city and the casinos are in such dreadful shape financially with no end in sight, the temptation to cheat HAS to be on some peoples' minds in a kind of "What does it matter now, we are going down the tubes anyway?" type thinking.      Seriously, I have said it before, I cannot fathom how, even IF a AC casino were actually CAUGHT cheating, they could or would actually shut down one of the few remaining AC casinos....such a move would be instantaneous DEATH and MAYHEM in the current AC situation, which remains extremely GRIM.And I believe, for the last 5-6 years, this has precisely been happening at various casinos with various machines, etc.      Compared with Vegas and other markets, players in AC just do NOT win with the same frequency or probability!

[jetermacaw]

Every Thursday in April and May CZR casinos in AC were and are offering multipliers to "invited guests", they are from 3x-50x. For the last 7 weeks I have received 3x. Coincidence, variance, random luck, I don't think so. You swipe your players card at the designated kiosk and it gives you the result. It reads your card knows who you are, knows what games you play, knows how frequent you visit etc. All of the "regular VP players all receive 3x", last week hung around the kiosk and watched what other players were receiving, one happy lady ended up getting 25x, so I asked what games she played, " I only play penny slots" was her answer. I report, you decide.

[notes1]

Black Friday was something altogether different. I believe that was the day the Bush administration cracked down on money transfers, in the name of national security. I think the owners of one of the largest online gambling transfer businesses were arrested in Seattle. The far right did not like gambling and I believe they used national security as an excuse to shut down online gambling.

This is my memory, could be wrong.

[doris13]

notes,going back to your original post;i am playing the contests,being dealt 3 of a kind and not getting the quad.it's the same all over,lol.

[melodicook3]

Jeter just a FYI -- I play only at Caesars and only VP -- I've received 7X the last three Thursdays I've swiped.

[onemoretry]

your math is correct, but you are not taking into account the larrrrrrrrger picture which i also provided,
I did not intend to address the "larger picture". I was addressing the specific issue raised in the very first sentence of your post, namely, completing a quad by drawing to trips. Your post indicated your belief that your results of that specific action supported the notion that this outcome was unduly rare. I simply pointed out that a success rate of slightly better than one in twenty is completely normal, and to expect better is unrealistic.

[onemoretry]

Sorry omt, here is my math. In my post, I stated I went multiple dozens of hands without getting the matching fourth. For the first two days of my recent trip, I played 25 hours for over 15000 hands and connected on four quads, after being dealt three. I can promise this is well below expected.

Your previous post did not mention the actual numbers. I agree with you that your success rate in drawing to trips was awful. It happens.

Do you recall my Vegas trip account where I stated I whiffed three consecutive times drawing to trips while playing 50 line? Or the 147 consecutive unsuccessful one card draws trying for a royal?

These unusually bad streaks are part of the game. One just has to hope that the results of the good streaks can overcome the bad results.

[onemoretry]

notes,going back to your original post;i am playing the contests,being dealt 3 of a kind and not getting the quad.it's the same all over,lol.
Yesterday, playing in the monthly 7 Star contest, I played 7 sessions, 77 triple line hands per session, a total of 1617 hands of TDB. I "amassed" a grand total of zero quads.