'Gaming Today' dumps Fa La La La La.... La la la la

[faygo]

It appears to me that he can't handle the "TRUTH." Hey, I banned myself from vpfree. Wasn't much over there. Hard to read, no categories etc..
 
Again we are the uneducated ones. This from someone that displays his lack thereof every time he clicks the keyboard.
 
The folks on this site are very knowledgeable of VP, friendly, do not abuse each other, put no one down and are happy with the 112,000 members.   His derogatory comments about our Webman are simply something he should be ashamed of.
 
Guess he just don't understand that people are laughing AT HIM not with him.
 
For the measly sum of $29.95 he could learn how to play VP.

[EDC1977]

As I had mentioned to Cd, Rob had no business throwing Webman under the VP bus like that. I liken his system of VP to that of connect the dots. Only problem is, the dots are in random patterns, just as an RNG chip is thus there is no formula to his method, only ranting. Perhaps he might think to download a couple of the FREE programs available and actually SHOW something besides word of mouth. I could easily say I showed a plus 50 profit for 2007 but I'd be lying and that would really tick off the VP gods. I'll stick to learning advantage play and enjoying instead of guessing. Has anyone actually seen a program or tutorial this guy has done? Is there anything of a proven method out there by him? Did he or will he"bail" out of the Trump AC  seminar?

[cddenver]

As I had mentioned to Cd, Rob had no business throwing Webman under the VP bus like that. 
 
Is there anything of a proven method out there by him? Did he or will he"bail" out of the Trump AC  seminar?
 
It was the stuff about WM that annoyed me.  We're the only ones allowed to talk trash like that to WM.   If there ever comes a time when WM needs to be put under a VP bus, then by God we'll be the ones to do it, not Rob! ()  There have been occasions when I've been tootling around the site late at night (11PM-midnight) and there's WM, chugging away at something.  Same thing in the early morning.  The first day of the recent contest I hit the site at 4:30 AM, and there he was.  As soon as he saw me online he PM'd me, asking me to try it to make sure it was working ok.  That's the Truth!
 
Is he blushing yet?  I think I see it...yes....""
 
As for Rob's winning - there are several pieces of his magic that I'd like to have the whole unvarnished Truth on (not half-Truth).  If I could strap Rob into a chair and pump him full of Truth serum, I'd have many questions for him.  My first question would be - does he determine whether any individual session is to be included in his "Professional" results before...or after...that session is played?   
 

[rascal]

What you look for in quickly determining that someone is not truthful is the inconsistency in what they say. Rob has repeatedly claimed that he has hundreds of W2G's available that prove he is what he says he is, yet whenever he is asked to provide these W2G's as proof he always throws up conditions that prevent anyone from seeing them.
 
A group of people go to the grocery store. As they are leaving the store each brags about how much he saved with careful shopping. The first four people saved an average of $10, but the fifth person claims he saved $40. Wow, the others are impressed but doubtful. They are even more doubtful when he refuses to show his receipt from the grocery store. Their doubt is increased even more when they realize his $40 savings are mathemathically impossible based on what he has in his cart.
 
But he is offended that they don't believe him. The burden is on them to believe his statement about saving $40 --- the burden is not on him to prove it, even if it is obvious that there is no realistic way he could have saved $40 on the items in that cart. "You must believe me, that's all there is to it, case closed," he says.
 
Same thing with Rob. He chooses to offer a theory that is easy to disprove with mathematics, yet when asked to provide actual evidence of his stated accomplishments he says, "You must believe me, that's all there is to it, case closed."
 
 
 
 
 

[Webman]

I just read Rob's article and am not terribly disturbed by it, although I don't understand why he feels that I personally try to "cloak" anything about our membership as he stated. We openly put up our membership numbers as well as the number of people who have visited the forum, posted in the forum, members currently browsing the forum and data from contest participation. I'm not sure where the "cloaking" is assumed.Just the same, I am not offended by his remark.I have stated numerous times that the main draw for this site and our membership is to play the games for free... a small percentage of our members even click through to the forum, much less post in it. There are a large number of people who read the messages but do not post often, but the bulk of our membership is more interested in playing the games on the site and we have the data to back this up. Nobody is claiming to have 100,000 members on this forum at one time and anyone thinking so is misinterpreting the numbers.Naturally, we would encourage more members to participate in the discussions here and feel that there is a well-rounded balance of topics on the whole that provide something for everyone. Anyone who has a legitimate question receives an answer almost immediately from a variety of members, whether it is about a strategy play, a casino to play at, or virtually any other topic.As for Rob's comments about discussion focusing on him, he has made that claim in the past and I felt it unfounded for the most part. However more recently, I cannot entirely disagree as numerous topics seem to dive off into parody of Mr. Fa La La La La.... La la la la's articles and lose focus a bit. The irony of course is that this only gives him the attention that some people posting feel that he does not deserve. These things tend to go in waves, but it seems to have escalated recently to levels not seen since Mr. Fa La La La La.... La la la la was himself banned. I would prefer that such discussion take place in threads such as this one and not every thread on the forum, but for now we'll allow members to self-moderate a bit on that matter and see how things go. I understand the fun of it and it's been long enough that I think it's fine to talk about in this manner as long as it does not take away from real discussion as well. There is plenty of room for both entertainment and serious discussion here.It seems that people here most talk about Mr. Fa La La La La.... La la la la when Mr. Fa La La La La.... La la la la talks about them, which has also been quite frequent lately. I'm not sure why someone of great stature in the VP world would dedicate large portions of his newsletters and articles to address people that he claims are so unworthy of attention. It's one thing to post messages about someone on message boards, but another to dedicate your professional communication to them."So and so" was banned from an internet forum? Oh my! I would personally much rather read about the theories and see some data on risk and reward to back it up rather than personal stories which obviously cannot be duplicated by every player out there who reads them.But... that's just my take on it, which has pretty much been the story ever since Rob first made an appearance here and was banned, not for his theories, but his behavior... which is well documented as well.

[cddenver]

Points taken, WM.  Time to ease up a bit on the "fun" Rob posts and get back to business.   Some people here get s-o-o-o-o carried away when it comes to Rob.   
 
I really can't wait, though, for the pattern information he's promised.  I almost started a thread on that when he mentioned it in a recent e-letter.  I'll wait for the gory details. 

[oej719]

Just learned that I was removed from the Fa La La La La.... La la la la eletter. I will have to get my people to keep me abreast of things as I must go underground for fear of my life. I will only be able to go to a casino after dark. I will be a ***** player!!!!!! He claoms I started this thread. Can he not read, it was Rascal. Or maybe he thinks I too am Rascal. How paraniod he is and jealous. I did mention that I hit a royal and within 2 hands hit aces with a kicker on ddb on the $100 machine at ceasers last week. I posted pictures on my blog. What realy ticks me off is the fact that I can never find nothing higher than $100 machines. Does anyone else feel the same. Since I am detecting patterns easier and easier I would like to see a $200 and $500 machine so I can hit my yearly goal of $10 million and stop by the end of January each year. Wake of America. I would like to thank all my supporters for reading my blog and sending me emails about their meetings with Fa La La La La.... La la la la and their experiences with him trying to scam and fraud them. Some have told me that after they bought one of his books with a credit card that their identity was stolen and their card was used fraudulantly. So be warned people this man will stoop to anything to get your money to feed his addictions.

OEJ

[cddenver]

I've been waiting to see if oej would post on that Special Edition e-letter.  I'll limit myself to one short post (really!) then go about my business.
 
Rob has some "fluff" padding in the e-letter to explain the Special Edition, but its real purpose is just to launch another attack against our very own oej.  Rob closes by saying the important part of the e-letter is a baseball score which he then passes on. 
 
Rob actually does include one piece of complete and unvarnished Truth concerning oej.  Oej, those legs of yours are indeed made for long pants.    The rest of what he says is moonshine.  Eduardo and I had the pleasure of meeting oej at one of the local casinos earlier this year, and oej definitely doesn't have a scratch problem.   As we settled in to play, one of his people brought over the briefcase which contains his walkin' around money.  I caught a glimpse of what was inside. <gasp!>
 
That's it for me on the subject.  I've got two pieces of duct tape out - one going on the mouth now ("mmmmmphhh, mmmmmmphhh!"), now the second one on the keyboard (dfdffdfdfddfd,llljljljlljljiuoure)
 

[Eduardo]

I always laugh when I read bubba's comments about oej being a low amount player since we all got together that time. I don't need any proof on that one... When that one guy showed up with a fresh stack of bills for oej to play on I about fell over.
 
My quarters shrivelled.

[faygo]

OEJ, the fact that you still like Fried Chicken after my reading this, makes you #1 in my book.