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My History in Video Poker (cont'd)
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vdpkr557
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Re: My History in Video Poker (cont'd)
A slight correction Mickey. As far as I know one cannot buy chips at the cage. I had them in my safe deposit box from a previous tourney cash.
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mickey crimm
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I want him to tell us what he knows about robbie singgeerrette.
I think it's pretty obvious. Write a book or two. Then create a website that tells stories of beating the machines, along with prominantly displaying the books for sale for $24.95 a set.
What would one have to invest to get books printed? Not more than a few dollars a set. Then one just has to get publicity for their website to get people on the site and have a chance to purchase the books.
Most of the masses just don't have any clue about how machines operate. They don't know anything about an RNG. They don't know anything about gambling math. They believe all kinds of weird things about how machines operate.
It's a target market. Exploiting the ignorant. And one wouldn't need much volume to make some pretty good money. Just 5000 sets of books a year is $125,000 in revenue. And what are the expenses? Just a few dollars a set for the books and the cost of maintaining the website. It's a low cost/ high profit business.
So how do we get publicity for our website?
!. Have a weekly column in a rag like Gaming Today.
2. Make posts about gambling tactics (It's not a system, it's tactics)
on every gambling forum on the internet that you can.
3. And even if you are a jerk. Any publicity is good publicity.
I think it's pretty obvious. Write a book or two. Then create a website that tells stories of beating the machines, along with prominantly displaying the books for sale for $24.95 a set.
What would one have to invest to get books printed? Not more than a few dollars a set. Then one just has to get publicity for their website to get people on the site and have a chance to purchase the books.
Most of the masses just don't have any clue about how machines operate. They don't know anything about an RNG. They don't know anything about gambling math. They believe all kinds of weird things about how machines operate.
It's a target market. Exploiting the ignorant. And one wouldn't need much volume to make some pretty good money. Just 5000 sets of books a year is $125,000 in revenue. And what are the expenses? Just a few dollars a set for the books and the cost of maintaining the website. It's a low cost/ high profit business.
So how do we get publicity for our website?
!. Have a weekly column in a rag like Gaming Today.
2. Make posts about gambling tactics (It's not a system, it's tactics)
on every gambling forum on the internet that you can.
3. And even if you are a jerk. Any publicity is good publicity.
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vdpkr557
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I would jokingly have to disagree with your description that Fa La La La La.... La la la la does not tout a system but a tactic. What he tells people to do is a sure system to lose! I wish I had a machine in my garage I' invite Fa La La La La.... La la la la over for all he could stand, drinks and girls included. On the serious side in 20 plus years of gambing, ten of which I have spent appox. 10000 hours playing video poker with the best of it, my numbers are pretty much in line with what they should be on paper. Do I think that there are any anomolies involving RNG's, absolutely not. The trouble is that we are human beings, and are capable of deep thought. The human mind will instinctively look for patterns, we just cant help it. I myself have gone thru many bad runs and my mind plays tricks on me as well. The difference is a thorough understanding of the game being played, the variance, as well as how an RNG and the machine being played works. Anyone intrested in further study on human psyche and gambling there are several great books available dealing with the psychology of poker (which basically deals with the psychology of everyday life) at any of the famous book shops dealing with gambling.
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Webman
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I'd prefer that this thread not get off track talking about Fa La La La La.... La la la la, as that always leads to an off-topic thread and often times closed due to conflict. Please resume the discussion about the topic though since there is plenty to read here, thanks! On this matter, for whatever it's worth, Mr Fa La La La La.... La la la la does say that he has not invested any money in the books and the only reason there is a charge on them is because the publisher requires it. I know that will not sit well with some people, but we'll just have to let this matter rest to continue the discussion. Carry on.
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oej719
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That satisfy's me after all he always tells the truth about everything. His picture should be on a coin or bill or at least a stamp.
P.S. who is the publisher?
P.S. who is the publisher?
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mickey crimm
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Here's a blast from the past in Al's playbook:
He was in Tunica, Mississippi in the spring of 1999 playing advantage slots. But in the Goldstrike he spots a $5 denom 9/6 Jacks where the slot techs had changed it from a five-coin machine to a three-coin machine--but left the Royal Flush at $20,000.
The game came in at 101%. But 4 days a week Al got 1% cashback and 3 days a week he got 2% cashback. He could only get out about 600 hands per hour because of handpays and fills.
He played the game for 5 1/2 months and ran very well netting over $400,000. Meanwhile he was continuously checking the internet to see if anyone posted the play up. One day he found the play posted on Stanford Wong's BJ21 sit.
A few days later Al came in to play and a white haired man with all the mannerisms of a pro, along with his wife were playing the game. They hit a royal on their first day.
Al called a friend of his, "Jim", who had absolutely no clue about video poker. Jim stopped by Al's house and downloaded Winpoker onto his laptop, then headed for Tunica.
The couple played until 3 AM then left. Al took over the machine and played until Jim arrived, then spent 6 hours teaching Jim how to play. Then Jim went to the room and practiced while Al continued to play for fear of losing the machine.
They locked the game up 24/7 for the next 9 days with a lead of about $25,000 until the last 6 hours of play. They had been working 8 hour shifts but with the stipulation that when one of them hit a royal the other guy had to come back in--even if it was only five minutes. Here's how the last 6 hours went:
Al relieves Jim at 4 AM--hits royal in 1/2 hour.
Jim relieves Al-- Hits royal an hour later.
Al relieves Jim--hits royal 2 hours later.
Jim relieves Al. Hits royal 2 1/2 hours later.
Jim calls Al with good news about another royal, but also some bad news-the slot techs were told to shut the game down and change the paytable.
The funny thing about this story is that Jim made $50,000 in 9 days, the first time he ever played video poker.
He was in Tunica, Mississippi in the spring of 1999 playing advantage slots. But in the Goldstrike he spots a $5 denom 9/6 Jacks where the slot techs had changed it from a five-coin machine to a three-coin machine--but left the Royal Flush at $20,000.
The game came in at 101%. But 4 days a week Al got 1% cashback and 3 days a week he got 2% cashback. He could only get out about 600 hands per hour because of handpays and fills.
He played the game for 5 1/2 months and ran very well netting over $400,000. Meanwhile he was continuously checking the internet to see if anyone posted the play up. One day he found the play posted on Stanford Wong's BJ21 sit.
A few days later Al came in to play and a white haired man with all the mannerisms of a pro, along with his wife were playing the game. They hit a royal on their first day.
Al called a friend of his, "Jim", who had absolutely no clue about video poker. Jim stopped by Al's house and downloaded Winpoker onto his laptop, then headed for Tunica.
The couple played until 3 AM then left. Al took over the machine and played until Jim arrived, then spent 6 hours teaching Jim how to play. Then Jim went to the room and practiced while Al continued to play for fear of losing the machine.
They locked the game up 24/7 for the next 9 days with a lead of about $25,000 until the last 6 hours of play. They had been working 8 hour shifts but with the stipulation that when one of them hit a royal the other guy had to come back in--even if it was only five minutes. Here's how the last 6 hours went:
Al relieves Jim at 4 AM--hits royal in 1/2 hour.
Jim relieves Al-- Hits royal an hour later.
Al relieves Jim--hits royal 2 hours later.
Jim relieves Al. Hits royal 2 1/2 hours later.
Jim calls Al with good news about another royal, but also some bad news-the slot techs were told to shut the game down and change the paytable.
The funny thing about this story is that Jim made $50,000 in 9 days, the first time he ever played video poker.
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vdpkr557
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Great friggin' story! I hate guys like Drunk Dave, that's why I don't play tables anymore. I'm usually the quiet guy like Al, but I have Drunk Dave's luck. I agree Mickey, you should write a book...or at least a monthly column in a big time gaming mag.
I dont like guys like drunk Dave either, but their money spends pretty good. signed, Al
I dont like guys like drunk Dave either, but their money spends pretty good. signed, Al
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mickey crimm
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THE PIONEER HUSTLERS CONVENTION
In the last section of machines to be linked up sat a lone Silicon Gaming Odyssey machine. It had five video poker games on it--and one video blackjack game in which you could bet from 1 to 100 coins. Every hustler in the casino had been eyeballing that machine and waiting for that section to get linked up. The BJ game was a 97%er. So in double time one would be at 194%. Or so everyone thought.
The Casino Manager left for vacation in Florida.
I walked into the casino the next day and saw two friends, Tom and Frank standing in front of the Odyssey machine. I looked up at the top of the machine and seen the sign "In double time all pays from 100 to 250 coins pay double." Tom and Frank were giving me looks like "stay away." The slot techs were in the area. "Oh, well. I guess I'm not in on that play."
The slot techs put the section up and running.
I went about my businees on the Game Kings. Several hours later here comes Tom and Frank over to the bank.
"What happened" I asked.
"The play's over" said Tom.
"How much you make?" I said
"$13,000"
"WHAT?"
"Yeah, you're not gonna believe this. The play was alot stronger that 194%.
"How?"
"Everytime we won a hand the machine would pay us the bet we made plus the bet we won and then.............double that. So we we're getting paid 4 for 1 on every hand we won " said Tom.
"And everytime we pushed a hand it paid us back our bet and doubled that. So we were getting paid 2 for 1 on pushes" said Frank.
"Wow!!" I said
"Yeah, the Assistant Casino Manager came over and jerked the sign off the machine and said "This machine will be shut down in five minutes. She's pissed" said Frank.
"And the Casino Manager is flying back from Florida tonight. I'm sure he's pissed too. I think they've had enough of us. Maybe we better make ourselves scarce" said Tom.
"I think you're right" I said. "There might be a mass 86'ing."
In the last section of machines to be linked up sat a lone Silicon Gaming Odyssey machine. It had five video poker games on it--and one video blackjack game in which you could bet from 1 to 100 coins. Every hustler in the casino had been eyeballing that machine and waiting for that section to get linked up. The BJ game was a 97%er. So in double time one would be at 194%. Or so everyone thought.
The Casino Manager left for vacation in Florida.
I walked into the casino the next day and saw two friends, Tom and Frank standing in front of the Odyssey machine. I looked up at the top of the machine and seen the sign "In double time all pays from 100 to 250 coins pay double." Tom and Frank were giving me looks like "stay away." The slot techs were in the area. "Oh, well. I guess I'm not in on that play."
The slot techs put the section up and running.
I went about my businees on the Game Kings. Several hours later here comes Tom and Frank over to the bank.
"What happened" I asked.
"The play's over" said Tom.
"How much you make?" I said
"$13,000"
"WHAT?"
"Yeah, you're not gonna believe this. The play was alot stronger that 194%.
"How?"
"Everytime we won a hand the machine would pay us the bet we made plus the bet we won and then.............double that. So we we're getting paid 4 for 1 on every hand we won " said Tom.
"And everytime we pushed a hand it paid us back our bet and doubled that. So we were getting paid 2 for 1 on pushes" said Frank.
"Wow!!" I said
"Yeah, the Assistant Casino Manager came over and jerked the sign off the machine and said "This machine will be shut down in five minutes. She's pissed" said Frank.
"And the Casino Manager is flying back from Florida tonight. I'm sure he's pissed too. I think they've had enough of us. Maybe we better make ourselves scarce" said Tom.
"I think you're right" I said. "There might be a mass 86'ing."
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Webman
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Moving sevencard's question to another new topic so that this can continue on course. To resume the video blackjack discussion, please see:http://www.videopoker.com/forum/forum_p ... p?TID=2206
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sevencard2003
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Moving sevencard's question to another new topic so that this can continue on course. To resume the video blackjack discussion, please see:
http://www.videopoker.com/forum/forum_p ... p?TID=2206
yes but i posted it here so mickey crimm would see it and hopefully tell me all he knows about how to play and win at video BJ machines where u can get an edge, wanted him to give me advice as to my bet spread should be with a $4000 roll.
http://www.videopoker.com/forum/forum_p ... p?TID=2206
yes but i posted it here so mickey crimm would see it and hopefully tell me all he knows about how to play and win at video BJ machines where u can get an edge, wanted him to give me advice as to my bet spread should be with a $4000 roll.
