COVID-19 Casino Impact

[New2vp]

If I were the leader, my goal would not be to bring people together, especially when we are asking them to maintain social distancing.

Seriously, herding cats is easier than trying to bring left and right together. Although very difficult, an easier goal is getting the country through both this medical and economic crisis.

[Jstark]

What is it with election years and viruses?

[OTABILL]

What the last few pages of comments have to do with the Caronavirus and casinos I haven't a clue, but I might as well jump in to how this thread has evolved. When the New York Times, his own staff and the Teacher's union takes liberal democrat Mayor of NYC to task for his inappropriately slow and misguided reaction to the Coronavirus pandemic my antenna goes up. I am not quick to judge or criticize anyone. What disturbs me is that Di Blasio seems to be given a free pass for his part in what has occurred in the City amongst those with blind hatred of Trump. This is not to defend or criticize the President's response, there are plenty of previous posts pro and anti- Trump. I have no political ax to grind one way or the other but as a native New Yorker Di Blasio's initial response appalls me. Just read the first few lines of the following. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/nyre ... lasio.html

[notes1]

NEW, thanks, but not a real answer. and, the question is not political. it is reality.

why won't vman or any of the other trump haters or those who question every decision, answer the question? if you were the leader of the country, would you keep the country open during flu season, knowing as many as 50,000 could die? and, keep in mind, if you keep it open, unlike coronavirus, many who die from the flu are children.

if you keep it open, you are allowing thousands to die. what number of deaths is then acceptable? if 50k is ok, how about 75k or 100k, what is your number? and, what will you be called by those who disagree...a murderer, a baby killer, someone who favors business over people.

why in the world, do i not read a single negative comment from the trump haters, about china. they started it and lied. and, just imagine, in his current mental state, biden was running the show. scary!

so, for all the monday morning leaders, here is your chance to make a decision. not so easy is it?

[New2vp]

What is it with election years and viruses?

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Hmm … that's odd! Wait, no it isn't. It's the total opposite of odd!

[Tedlark]

so, for all the monday morning leaders, here is your chance to make a decision. not so easy is it?

Hard decisions are not easy to make and easy decisions are not hard to make. It sounds so simple but it really isn't. I've asked several questions in my last couple posts in this thread that, too, have also gone - unanswered.

[New2vp]

NEW, thanks, but not a real answer.

Hey notes, actually my post was a real answer, but there are a lot of questions going on. I was responding to seemoreroyals (below) rather than you when he implied that Trump's mission should be one of bringing people together.

... he is a terrible leader unable to bring people together ...

So, I really wasn't interested in getting involved in your back and forth with Vman. However since you asked, Notes, apart from your personal disagreement, I'll do my best to address your latest post.

To be fair, if you go back and re-read your questions, they are actually statements simply disguised as questions. I am sure you are familiar with such questions if you have been watching any of President Trump's news conferences where some reporters would rather push a narrative rather than actually ask something designed to elicit additional information. Maybe that's what their target market readers crave, who knows?

I already wrote that people will die no matter what decisions are made; just the number of deaths and the proportion of causes will differ. I agree with you if what you are proposing by your rhetorical questions is that we should find the proper balance for both medical and economic solutions. I almost never agree with anyone who has an extreme bias in one direction or another (whether talking politics or simply striving towards optimal solutions). Few of the interesting or difficult problems have what mathematicians call "corner solutions" (emphasizing one variable over all the others).

I don't have the benefit of all the expert opinions to choose from that our leader does, and my idea for a solution will not be the one that will be enacted, so if I beg off future speculation, please don't be offended.

Clearly I am aware that there are groups who will oppose whatever choice President Trump makes. And even if he reverses course, perhaps based on new information, they may do a 180 in their criticism, perhaps denouncing the very view they were espousing days earlier, without even realizing it. Or they will state that a particular decision (that is so obvious after the fact that most everyone is compelled to agree with it) should have been made sooner even when information had recently changed. And I am just as certain that those who don't like Trump will blame him more than those who support him … and give him less credit for solutions than those who do support him. That is hardly a news flash.

If I may, I'd like to make a couple of other comments.

(1) While it may be easier to call others names than to supply analysis during a heartfelt argument, it is generally ineffective in moving anyone towards your beliefs.

(2) To those that think President Trump has narcissistic tendencies, I would be interested in hearing their ranking of the top 5 or 10 major candidates for president in the last 30 years that did not have narcissistic tendencies. My point is that narcissism really cannot be avoided. Frankly, I'm surprised that any totally well-balanced individuals would ever aspire to the presidency.

And who among us is the best equipped to determine who is well-balanced? (I know ... all of us forum members are best for that role!!)

We all ought to try to keep our blood pressure down. I haven't heard that hypertension increases your chances of catching or dying from Covid-19, but you never know … maybe we'll find that out in the coming days.

[New2vp]

Sorry, Ted, when I sent the last reply, I had not seen your latest post. And as you might be able to tell, I took so long making it, that I am now too tired to go back and see your previous points or questions (although I agree with your latest point). Good luck on adding a couple more daily highs!

Edit: Now I remember … I DID like your point about the idea that it is really the various Governors that should be making decisions. We really have a bigger, more complex country with more intricacies than many of us will ever realize. Local solutions can often be better than national ones. Keep the good ideas coming!

[Tedlark]

Here is MY bottom line: COVID-19 will be the single biggest outside threat to my health in my lifetime. Having had 2 pulmonary embolisms (once in each lung) and had pneumonia twice (once in each lung), puts me into the extreme risk category. I AM NOT looking to the Governor of my state to keep me safe, I AM NOT looking to the President of the United States to keep me safe, I am looking at ME to keep ME safe.

When I see people not abiding by social distancing, when I see people not washing their hands, when I see people hoarding much necessary essentials, it really frosts my ass because not only am I doing my part for ME but I am doing it for my fellow man as well. All I ask for in return is the same courtesy and civility.

[notes1]

ted, your comment about governors having authority over their states are exactly true. we don't want washington making local decisions. this is how our form of government was designed by the founders.

the never ending complainers and trump haters will never be satisfied. their panic and/or hatred of trump has affected their objectivity. my question to them was designed to be tough to answer. they can't opine that the country should be closed due to flu, because they never complained before. but, if they answer, keep the country open, they have put themselves in the position of being accused of not valuing every life. catch -22!

have you noticed that in the past, the left complained trump acted like a king. but, now, they complain , he is not making more universal decisions that affect the entire country. he can't win.