Oh how I love September
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Re: Oh how I love September
After looking at the fantastic luck of Roveer, I am in shock, as well as jealous of his good futtune. Has anyone calculated the odds of a player hitting two royal flushes in 20 hours? The likelyhood that a person would be so lucky as to win all the other jackpots, in addition to two RF must put the odds of such an occurance beyound the odds of hitting a lottery jackpot. So what we are seeing the pictures of is nothing less that admasing. It makes me want to go to the casino now and give fortune a try. Anyway, maybe I can learn something from Roveer's posting and pictures. I read somewhere that in order to calculate the size of bankroll that a player needs for just two hours of playing, you would multiple the size of one bet by 150 to get an estimate of needed bankroll size. At 60 dollars per hand, two hours of playing time would equal 9,000 dollars. Since this game has a high volitility, the bankroll needed may be a lot larger than 9K. Can someone tell me what size bankroll that I need to have to play this game for a specific period of time? On another point, the payback schedule for the game that Roveer played is 96.8%. How does this effect the size of bankroll needed? A number of players have posted pictures of good success while playing VP with poor pay schedules. I wonder how their success would be different, if they were playing on machines with better pay schedules. When a machine has a bad pay schedule does it hit more jackpots? Or does it just look that way from a distance. I am left with the feeling that it does not matter what the pay schedule is or the size of my bankroll. what seems to be important is that the player be in the right place at the right time. In 25 years of gambling I have never had the luck that Roveer has displayed here. I have not been in the right place, at the right time yet. But Roveer's luck gives me the hope to keep trying. If only I had the bankroll to outlast the drought.
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]On another point, the payback schedule for the game that Roveer played is 96.8%. How does this effect the size of bankroll needed? A number of players have posted pictures of good success while playing VP with poor pay schedules. I wonder how their success would be different, if they were playing on machines with better pay schedules. When a machine has a bad pay schedule does it hit more jackpots? Or does it just look that way from a distance. I am left with the feeling that it does not matter what the pay schedule is or the size of my bankroll. what seems to be important is that the player be in the right place at the right time. In 25 years of gambling I have never had the luck that Roveer has displayed here. I have not been in the right place, at the right time yet. But Roveer's luck gives me the hope to keep trying. If only I had the bankroll to outlast the drought. In my opinion, the paytable does not effect the number of premium hands that you receive. You see a lot of photos from games with lower EV paytables because that is what is out there to play. If stronger paytables were available, I for one would play them.
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Congrats, love the photos. And I'm with you thank gawd tourist season is over. Things always get better in early fall and then again after holidays. Say what you will mathmaticians not trying to start another debate. Just based on my expeirnce.
And yes paytables don't mean squat if they are not "hitting".
And yes paytables don't mean squat if they are not "hitting".
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After seeing the picture and details of a person playing 100 dollars a credit and hittting 15,000 on the first spin; after seeking picture of person collecting 72,000 on a RF, I am that much more convinced that vp success seems to be much more about luck, that it is about keeping the correct cards, or about finding the best paying games to play. In that regard I say that it is just like playing a typical slot machine. Players that play the best machines, and play perfectly will stay in the game longer. Generally that just means that it will take some extra deals before they go broke. If a player is not lucky - does not hit a hand pay - then he will run out of money, not time. I am happy to see players winning regardless of what kind of machine they are playing or what method of playing they are using. However, I am sure anxious to win the PowerBall so I can play 10 hand TDB at the 5 dollar demonination. Then I too will have some pictures to show, sooner or later.
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Roveer did a great job -- congratulations!!!
But as I have posted before, STP is basically a losing game. Most of Roveer's hits were at the $60 per hand level, with a few being at $30. Playing at this dollar level on STP eats away at your bankroll very quickly, and especially at the paytables showing on Roveer's photos.
Roveer showed us 15 jackpots that he earned within a 20 hours stretch of playing. That's about one handpay per hour and 20 minutes of play. Based on my own lengthy experience playing STP, my guess is that Roveer walked away with some nice money in his pocket, but no where near the sum total of his hits.
Again, Roveer's hits were great, but it is statement's like jim18's "But Roveer's luck gives me the hope to keep trying" that forces me to once again appear to be a party-pooper concerning Roveer's good fortune. This is not a positive game and the only way to truly beat it is to get very lucky, hit big, and immediately get up and walk away. You cannot physically attack this game for 20 hours with a $3K bankroll at the levels Roveer was playing on and walk away as a big winner unless you luck out and hit something in the $50K range.
I am not trying to detract from Roveer's big day and I congratulate him, but I think even he would be the first to tell us that his net winnings at the end of the session were no where in the ball park of the sum total of his jackpots.
But as I have posted before, STP is basically a losing game. Most of Roveer's hits were at the $60 per hand level, with a few being at $30. Playing at this dollar level on STP eats away at your bankroll very quickly, and especially at the paytables showing on Roveer's photos.
Roveer showed us 15 jackpots that he earned within a 20 hours stretch of playing. That's about one handpay per hour and 20 minutes of play. Based on my own lengthy experience playing STP, my guess is that Roveer walked away with some nice money in his pocket, but no where near the sum total of his hits.
Again, Roveer's hits were great, but it is statement's like jim18's "But Roveer's luck gives me the hope to keep trying" that forces me to once again appear to be a party-pooper concerning Roveer's good fortune. This is not a positive game and the only way to truly beat it is to get very lucky, hit big, and immediately get up and walk away. You cannot physically attack this game for 20 hours with a $3K bankroll at the levels Roveer was playing on and walk away as a big winner unless you luck out and hit something in the $50K range.
I am not trying to detract from Roveer's big day and I congratulate him, but I think even he would be the first to tell us that his net winnings at the end of the session were no where in the ball park of the sum total of his jackpots.
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That's a lot of hits but those multi-hand machines scare the hell out of me. When they opened the new casion near Baltimore I went in once and saw they had a LOT of those multi-hand games and after luckily getting out of there slightly ahead I vowed to never go back because I can foresee a horrible day in my future if I do.
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Find your comfort zone and play there. I used to share your sentiments. Now, I prefer multi hand if my bankroll permits. Sometimes I have to hit on single hand to move on to multi hand play. A dealt royal on multi hand can rev the adrenalin and create a bankroll for several casino trips!
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Has anyone calculated the odds of a player hitting two royal flushes in 20 hours?
For frequent players the odds are close to 100% that they'll hit two royal flushes in 20 hours at some time in their playing career. Bob
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What a nice visit to a Casino. Congratulations
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. Has anyone calculated the odds of a player hitting two royal flushes in 20 hours? As has already been stated by another poster, hitting two royals in 20 hours, especially if one is playing multi-lines, is not a big deal. I once had seven in under two hours.