Distressing CET VP Stories

[Tedlark]

 
  A few of my Dreamcard hits.

[chattycattty]

Nice hits Tedlark.   You did something that I have never done before in drawing that Royal Flush.

[DaBurglar]

good for you  where was this from and when?   what was the net result?  (i.e. profit/loss?)   I've hit royals on SINGLE LINE dreamcard on five star machines, and I even hit one royal on a single line quick quad game (again a five star machine)....but all these were more than 3 years ago, nothing since.  This corresponds in timeframe to when AC went off the deep end and started switching more and more vp machines away from paytable return percentage to slot return percentage.

[Tedlark]

  These were all hit during two different trips to Four Winds in New Buffalo, MI. The top picture was during one trip that I also had 2 other hand pays of over $1,500.00 each. The bottom 3 pictures were all hit on the same trip.
 
  I have had some other good results on Dream Card at Four Winds but some dry spells too. Sorry, p&l is noyb..

[olds442jetaway]

i do not play (or have not played in the past) multi-line games except on rare occassions when I find one that I think is worth the risk because it is "fun",  As such, in the last two and a half years at the Taj in AC, I have played both the multi line dreamcard game and the multi line Quick quad game.    Since I play them infrequently, I so not have massive hand totals, but even still my infrequent play on these machines netted me the following stats: Total hands played on 3 line quick quad machine 25 cents:  156,003 hands over two-plus years (that's 52,001 deals playing 3 lines at max coin)  all hands were plain old JOB QQ coin in: $234,004    returned: 210,000    a percent of about 90%, which is quite shatty/shoddy  Total hands played on 3 line dreamcard machine(s) 25 cents at the taj (there are 3 of them but one was recently removed:  124,200 hands over almost 3 years (thats 41,400 deals playing 3 lines at max coins)   note:  I chose both bonus poker and JOB in my dreamcard games coin in: $310,500    returned:  285,600   a percent return of slighlty better 92%, which still blows.  Now here's the stinker:    number of royals on BOTH games amidst all these hands?    ZERO   NADA  ZIPPY   ZILCH  furthermore, in the 2 plus years I paid attention to these games and watched others play as well, never saw a royal.   i did see one lady playing dollars hit quad deuces three times in twenty minutes on dreancard deuces, but that was the best i saw or experienced.    

Beginning to sound like my lifetime Royal record. Will post separately on vip stories on last nights results.

[olds442jetaway]

Great job Ted. Keep them coming.

[924]

they have a ton of seemingly "good" games, 8/5 BP (99.3%) but when you play them you quickly see that something is really wrong, as your bankroll evaporates from all the long stretches of duds (zero value hands)
Just passing through here. I haven't read your entire output, and I've never played on the east coast, but you don't seem to be making a strong effort to verify your allegations.

If the games are as harshly rigged as you suggest, the cheating mechanism(s) should be discernible and testable. As an extreme example, let's say they're cheating by removing all the jacks from the deck, playing with the remaining 48 cards only. Simply by monitoring for jacks as you play, you could confirm the cheating beyond any reasonable doubt within only a couple hundred hands.

Or maybe they're cheating by dealing you poor starting cards, as you seem to suggest. We know that a random distribution would consist of:

- winning hand (high pair or better) = 21%
- low pair only = 29%
- no pair, no win = 50%

If your actual results show, for example, only 10% winning hands on the deal, then you have very strong evidence of cheating, and you don't need a huge sample size, plus you can use the forums to encourage others to replicate your results.

I'm not dismissing the significance of your actual win/loss figures, but those results can be clouded by factors such as strategy decisions.

[EDC1977]

Nice group of hits Mr. Ted. Congratulations

[marie meijer]

WTG! Ted.  Those are too beautiful! I never play dream card and never win at Four Winds. Hmmm.

[BOOPSAHOY]

Great job Ted! Keep the wins coming